injectables IUI question

[arie]

I'm about to start injectables for IUI. I'm told that since I'm over 35:eek: I get a higher does of meds. Does 150iu of follitism for 4 days sound reasnoble or too high? :confused:

Thanks

[robyn-d]

I was on 375iu of Follistim in the AM and 350iu Repronex in the PM for my IVF cycles so 150 is not that high, hope that helps and best of luck to you!!

[fishdoc]

That seems not too high at all - we STARTED at 300 of Gonal F! It is a good sign that they are starting you so low - it suggests they think you have a good ovarian reserve!

Fish

[arie]

My tests show a good reserve, low fsh no apparent age related difficulties. I had a short LP prior to meds, it is still too short some month so I was surprised when the nurse said age as the reason. RE wants 4 follies, I'm afraid I will have much more.

[fishdoc]

Well, that all soubnds very positive - you should be on your way to pregnancy soon, I am guessing!

Fish

[arie]

Hi, my day3 E2 is under 32 can some one tell me what it means and what day 5 E2 number should be? Thank you

[fishdoc]

These things vary depoending on the lab doing the testing etc, but at least one paper showed that "normal" day 3 E2 levels should be under 80 (you are well below that!).

Then again, to illustrate how variable it is, I just found a paper that was showing "good" day 5 E2 values as those under 70 - *lower* than the other study's cutoff for day 3!

My educated guess is that your E2 level looks pretty good. The fact is, many clinics no longer do bloodwork at all, since they really are using the bloodwork as a proxy to see how well you are responding and how well your uterine lining is expected to develop. Now that docs regularly do transvaginal u/s, they can actually SEE how well you are responding and how thick and trilaminar your lining is, so those numbers are really less important, except perhaps when trying to figure out what to try next.

There was a nice report from the World Health Organization about IVF, and they talk about this in depth - I think if you google "WHO" and "IVF" you can find it.

Fish

[arie]

Thanks - RE is doing E2 and u/s.

[arie]

Please need some feedback on injectables IUI. Just talked to the nurse I have 1 mesurable follie on right. 5 follies under 10mm on left. lining 5.9 . E2 level was under 30 day3 now 85. Estrogen not high enofe for the doctor either. next sono, blood friday I am on follistim 150. Has anyone had not good numbers day8 and got better later?

[fishdoc]

Arie,

those numbers do look a little low (are you on day 8 of stims? Or cycle day 8? earlier you said you were doing 4 days of follistim 150, so I am assuming CD 8). Certainly people have had their follicles show a good growth spurt at the end (ours did), but my experience is with IVF, where they want a ton of follicles (in IUI you don't want too many, due to the fear of multiples).

That is probably why you are on 150 - Follistim 150 is a dose that is 1/3 of the dose Mrs Fish has used for her cycles. So, the bottom line here is that you are having an okay response, albeit not as strong as the docs want. BUT - you have lots of room to improve things, since you are on a very low dose, so they can fine-tune your meds! And - if you are on CD8, there is still plenty of time for those follies to grow.

Fish

[theloo]

Arie, try not to worry too much! My e2 was 100 on CD8 (after 6 days of injections). Your doctor is monitoring you and will change the dosage as necessary to get you to the right O date. Good luck!

[fishdoc]

Let me change my mind - I was htinking IVF when I started that lasp post. Those numbers seem pretty reasonable for IUI (but I caution that I know VERY little about IUI, so take my opinion for what it is worth!)

Fish

[arie]

Fishdoc, TheLoo thanks

[pgbaby]

Hi Arie and all:

I'm doing IUI before IVF too. However, my RE didnot do any testing for E2 (only u/s every 2 or 3 days) during IUI. I havenot had the clomid challenge test either. (I only got 1 blood test before the 1st IUI on CD3: FSH: 4.9, E2:92 and LH:3.8). I wonder if E2 testing is the standard protocol for IUI or you requested for them?
We are going to have consultation and review IUI data with RE to prepare IVF in july/august (if things donot work this month).

Any info is much appreciated to add to my question list for the RE.


-pg

[fishdoc]

I don't know much about E2 testing (many docs don't do it), but I DO know that your day 3 fsh is phenomenally good, which bodes well for IVF (and IUI) success.

Fish

[pgbaby]

Fishdoc: Much thanks for the feedbacks. I'm a bit worry about my E2 as some RE posts list that my E2 is very high ... (I havenot been able to find WHO report about E2/FSH ratio evaluation which you mentioned yet). I also notice your (or really Mrs Fish') beta is 6/9: Best wishes for good results on 6/9!

Arie: Btw I have been in Follistim 150 too for 10 days (IUI on CD12). It seems that the last few days before O the folicles grew much quicker (and more of little ones showed up during CD8-10 too.)

-pg

[fishdoc]

pg - I did not mean to imply that the WHO report talked specifically about E2/FSH ratio evaluation - it talks more broadly about doing bloodwork vs not doing bloodwork. If you cannot find the report, feel free to email me and I will send it to you (fishdoc01@hotmail.com).

fish

[Irishannie]

pgbaby, I know when I did my 3 day testing my E2 was 80 and my FSH was 11.3 and they said that was high. This one clinic said that high E2 can skew the FSH number, I just think they wanted me to use doner eggs because of my age I was 41 when I went there and would never use that place in a million years it is in San Antonio.

[arie]

PGbaby - thank about the follicals there seems to be no thread of women doing IUI with injectables. My understanding on E2, estrogen tests is that the doctor can 1. tell if you are reacting to the meds and 2. to be sure your E2 is not too high.

[pgbaby]

Thanks for the info Arie, Fishdoc and Irishannie!

The RE just advised that she thinks I'll get around 8 follicles from IVF stimulation from IUI follicles data due to my age - so she didnot show much concern about my high E2 number.

I trust my RE decisions - but I didnot feel too good about the consultation as I didnot feel that the RE really want to discuss the results in the number details. I wonder how folks were able to get so much info from the RE visit. My RE doesn't talk during the standard u/s nor IUI visits ... so I didnot get much info from those visits as I respected her time for those visit (the routinely tight schedule set for her procedure with all IUI/IVF patients etc...)
I felt as she only thought I only want to get BFP - which is true - but I also want to be informed about my health care!

Time to go to bed for me now and I'll say a prayer for all of us: BFPs, and healthy babies ...

-pg

[arie]

PGbaby - How many follicals did you get and at what sizes? I get info becouse simply ask, they never offer without asking. The sono tech told me today that my doc has great results why do I ask the spacifics, I told her they are my results and I have the right to know.

[pgbaby]

Hi Arie:
I've been getting 2x19mm (and 6 smaller ones ~11mm) at CD10 on follistim.
(2x20,21mm on clomid and 3-4 smaller ones.)
I'm glad that we all spoke up to be informed patients.
-pg

[arie]

pgBaby - when is your beta?

[Lori26]

Hey everyone. I just had a question that I hope you can help me with. This is my first month of injectables and I did my CD3 estradiol test and I go back tomorrow for my next b/w. Does anyone know the levels it should be at around CD9? Any info. would be greatly appreciated!!! :)

[pgbaby]

Hi Arie: I'm moving on to july/august IVF ...
Hi Lori: I only had E2 on CD3. Theloo posted her number on CD9 in this thread. HTH,


-pg

[arie]

I almost had an asthma attack this evening had to use my emergency inhailer so this should have a disaseterous effect on iui, it's scheduled for Wed. Any feedbback? hope some one can tell me I'm wrong.

[CrazyinLA]

Hi Arie!

Looks like we are on the same plan - I am doing IUI w/ Clomid+injectibles in June & Aug - on to IVF in Sept. if they don't work.

Since I know Albuterol (a common asthma inhaler) is safe during pregnancy, I think you're going to be fine for your IUI! My sister has asthma, and used her inhaler several times during her pregnancy, and she has a happy, healthy baby now! Best of luck tomorrow...

[Irishannie]

Hey guys,

I think we are all very simular things going on, I am going to do injections this month and then onto yet again another IVF next. I want to do the injections one because I have been taking DHEA for the past 4 months and want to see if it works and two because I want to make sure my left side ovulates since that is the only side that is open. Just in case this could work this month it will be the first time I get pregnant using accupuncture and I am hoping that will help. I have done 9 IUIs in the past but never injections, I know I will start injections on day 4 and I usually at least with IVF have gone 10 days on injections. Then I guess HCG shot and then bd, after doing all those IUIs and nothing but stress I am not a big fan of IUI and we do not have male factor.
Well I am off to bed and read my book. Good night.

Annie

[arie]

This is what happened yeaterday. I'm not sure what coused it. If anyone has any ideas, why my stomach/Overies are still sore today. I never had this many follicals before so maybe that's what is cousing me to be sore - Any ideas?

Morning from hell - ACP prior and after IUI went great. IUI - I was so scared that the tube would not even enter my uteres not to mention cervix, after about 30 min. of trying a doctor was called in. OB/GYN. gave me 4 novacain (sp.) shots to numb the area. Once I was numb everything opened up and OB/GYN did the IUI easely. Now the novacain is wearing off so I'm starting to hurt. The nurse did say that the sample was excelent. The strange part is I did not Ovulate yet- did HCG on monday. So after all this they will put on my chart to give me Valum in the future. Now I'm forced to take the day off. I know I should be positive but if I don't get bfp their wont be anything positive about today. Another bit of info DH birthday is 12 days from now, enteresting timeing.

[CrazyinLA]

Arie: Sorry about the pain you are experiencing. My guess is that it is due to both the number of follies (I'm in usually pain with 2 follies, I can't imagine what more will be like) and the poking around they did down there to get the catheter in. But it sounds like it was all successful! Do you temp? And did they say you could BD again just to cover your bases? Or are you too sore? I hope your DH gets the best birthday gift ever...

IrishAnnie: I just started my first round of injections yesterday. Since I'm combining it with Clomid, they have me on a fairly low dose. How much are you taking? What cd are you on? Here's to the June 1st girls getting BFPS...

Did a u/s yesterday. I have several tiny follies, and I'm hoping that by next Monday I'll get to see how many the injectibles have produced.

[theloo]

Hey Crazy! I see that you are going the injectibles/IUI route after all! Did you find some insurance coverage??? Good luck to you! At CD6, it's not unusual to see only small follies. You should see some result by Monday (CD11, right?).

[arie]

Crazy - Thank you for the response. What is your goes of follistim?
I was very surprised at the pain still today since the shots did not realy hurt. I do chart, that is what is makeing me scared, I was definatly not over the coverline yesterday and very strange today at 6am my temp was 97.6 not over the coverline but I dosed off again and at 7:10 my temp was 98. this is over the coverline. My temps never swing this much in a half an hour. plus this is 60 hours after HCG shot. Totaly confused.

Irishann - hope DHEA worked!

Theloo - were you sore after IUI, how did your go?

I wonder if all does folicals make it more difficult to get the catheter in?

[Irishannie]

Hi Aire, but since this is 60 hours after hcg the raise in temps would say you have "O"d correct. Why they flucuated so much in .5 hour I do not know?

Good night.

Annie

[CrazyinLA]

Hi, TheLoo! You're the prototype for this thread! Insurance still won't cover my procedures, but I sort of found a middle ground. One RE I consulted said IUI+injectibles would cost $6K (which I'm still having a hard time believing), but with my new RE it's only $1,500 a cycle. I don't think I've ever said "only $1500" before in my life - but compared to IVF, it's a bargain!

Arie: Are you having AF-type soreness (internal) or is it the skin area? Either way, I hope you're feeling better! I don't think the follies would affect the catherer (since it only goes to the uterus, not up to the tubes where those babies are hatching), but I could absolutely be wrong. It could be that the whole are is just more constricted due to the weight of the follies. And so sorry about the temps being wonky - my chart looks like a richter scale during an earthquake, so I'm not much help there! As for my drug use, I am on 75iu of Follistim + 50mg of Clomid. Also, did your doc scehule your beta for 2 weeks from now, or do they only do it if you're late?

IrishAnnie: What does DHEA do exactly? Does it regulate Oing? Or promote more follies? Just curious...

[arie]

Thank you ladies - the pain is not AF pain it is dull pain in my overies in hips also stomch is sore. Had problems walking yesterday but fine today.

Crazy - does your insurance cover anything? I should call about the beta.

[CrazyinLA]

Arie - yep, that sounds just like the pain I get when I'm Oing. It's actually so common that there is a name for it - Mittleschmertz. And since you have so many eggies this month, I'm sure that pain is awful! I hope you feel better, but take it as a good sign! :) I actually just felt the first hint of that pain today - and got so excited!

And, no, my insurance doesn't cover anything.:( At my old REs office, he could do IUIs and u/s and bill my insurance for a standard visit, and the sperm washing was only $150 or so. But at the new office, I'm draining the savings account. It took a long time to get the point where I was okay with that (it's hard to spend thousands, if not tens of thousands on something you always thought would be free!) - but know I would give anything for just one little baby.

[CrazyinLA]

IrishAnnie: WHEN ARE YOU GOING IN FOR YOUR BETA? I just saw your bfps on the other thread...please let us know! :)

[Irishannie]

Hey Crazy, no beta, they were the $ store pg. tests so I guess it was the everopation line, but I was late and left a big cyst, the RE said I could go ahead and do injectables anyway becasue of my age. I am taking DHEA and I have 5 follies after 3 days of shots. I am pretty happy with that. I am saving for IVF so I only want to go back in for 1 more ultrasound before trigger, have no idea whether or not they will allow me to do that, but everything costs so much money. I wonder if I the follies will grow on their own and would I ovulate without a trigger shot????

Annie

[Irishannie]

Hi Guys,

I just got my e2 number it is 150 at day 3 of stims. Now I have 2 follies that are at 10, I was wondering if anyone knows what my E2 level should be at this stage, I know it is not bad but I was trying to find a chart with the levels and could not find one.

[sweetbabydreams]

Irish -- When I was getting ready to trigger during my IUI with inj, the RE told me that they look for an estradiol level of about 200 per follicle -- that indicates how many good, ovulatable follicles there are (I think I just invented a word!) But that may be later on -- it's early in your cycle and the follicles are still maturing. It sounds like you're on the right track. Good luck!

[CrazyinLA]

Irish: Sorry about the evap - those are the cruelest things ever. That's great that they're letting you go ahead with the shots, though! And I am going through the same dilemma with u/s before trigger. Each u/s costs $200, and they want to do them every few days! :eek: I'm wondering if I can just do opks, then go in for an u/s the day of my surge? What a dilemma - I don't want to waste more money, but I don't want to waste the money I've already spent by missing my O chance.

Sweetbaby: "ovulatable"! I love it! How about "ovulosity?" :)

Question: How many days do they put you on injectibles? I did 50mg of Clomid cd4-9, 75iu of Follistim cd6-10, then kicked it up to 150iu of Follistim cd11-15. I only showed 4 follies today - I had so hoped for more. I'm just wondering how many days of injectibles is normal? Or do you do them up until you O, regardless of time?

[Irishannie]

I am doing 375 Gonal F and I started on Tuseday and the nurse said she thinks my us on Monday should tell the Dr. that this is it, so that would be around 7 days if Monday is my last day. I will let you know though.

Annie

[sweetbabydreams]

... as in, my ovulosity ain't what it used to be! I was on 225 units of Repronex a day for 7 days (cd3-9), then I did the trigger. They originally told me 10 days, but the follies grew faster than they thought. Which is why I would recommend you stick with the u/s monitoring, even though the bills do add up. You really don't know how your body's going to react. Think of it this way: if they get everything right this time, you could get pg and avoid all the crazy IVF bills. I had ACP today and she stuck needles in my nose!!! I've never had that before -- I felt like such a porcupine. But I'm happy because AF came today for the first time since my m/c. Soon I will be back on the crazy train again. :rolleyes:

[theloo]

Crazy, your protocol with clomid/injectibles sounds like mine. I did clomid for 5 days, then 75iu of Bravelle for 4 days, then for a u/s, then 2 more days of 75iu, then 2 more days of 150iu. I only had 1 mature follicle and got a BFN. You may be lucky since you have 4. Later my doctor said that they were not aggressive enough with that cycle and we gave up on clomid entirely.

[CrazyinLA]

Sweetbaby: My ovulatitety is plummeting daily. :) I did ACP today as well - she left my nose alone, but she slaughtered my back with cupping. I asked DH to take a photo of my heinous bruises so that I can wave it at my children when they misbehave. I think you're right about biting the bullet and doing the u/s - I didn't get in touch with my RE in time today (the exchange 'left messages'), and I missed a day of injections. Boo. I'm going in tomorrow, and I'm just going to do whatever they say.

TheLoo: Man, I love hearing your stories and seeing that little preggo ticker! Thanks for the reassurance - I was a bit concerned about all these drugs (I've never Oed this late before), but I'm going to stick it out in the hopes that I can meet you down on the pregnancy board! :)

Irishannie: Good luck on Monday - and are you still doing the DHEA?

[Irishannie]

Yea I am still doing DHEA I think it really helps, but I had some spotting today which is kinda unnerving because I am afraid of the lining, so I am going to drink red raspberry leaf tea. I will move my ACP up from next Sat to sometime this week.

[arie]

Does any one know if AF can start if I'm on progestorone?

[pgbaby]

Arie: my RE donot let me off progesterone til after BFN. AF usually started after 3 days stopping progesterone for me.
Irishannie: Baby aspirine helps with the lining too.

HTH,
-pg

[Sunny]

arie-I was on progesterone during my last cycle, took a beta, bfn-stopped the prog. and didn't get af until a week later, right after acupuncture. For me, it definitely delayed all af symptoms and onset.

[arie]

So, I will call RE office on Monday and find out if they forgot something, like sceduling my beta or what I'm to do.

[Sunny]

At my RE's office you can either schedule a beta ahead of time (on IUI day) for 2 weeks later or wait for af to show up. If it doesn't come then go in for the beta. Unfortunately af usually comes before the end of the 2ww for me, but didn't with the progesterone so I went in for the beta.

I'm still not sure if I should do the prometrium again post IUI for this cycle. I guess I'll ask them and see what they think. They were hesitant about giving it to me in the first place but I sort of insisted. They said I didn't need it but gave it to me anyway for piece of mind.

[sweetbabydreams]

Arie - When I did IUI/inj they said to do HPT or beta 12 days past the IUI. If it's BFN, they tell you to stop prog, if BFP continue through the 1st trimester. It looks like you're at 11dpo today -- so you could test tomorrow! Have you tested at all yet? Personally I hate the HPT's, I would rather have a beta. Good luck and baby dust!!

Crazy - Cupping -- how very Gwyneth of you!! To me 4 follies sounds good -- I don't think they want more than 5 or so with IUI's, due to risk of multiples. With my BFP I only had 3 or 4 really mature ones. Don't give up yet!

Sunny - I had a lot of questions about the prog as well. The RE told me that the reason they give prog during inj cycles is that the FSH decreases the ability of the corpus luteum to produce prog, so you have to supplement it. They wouldn't have recommended it if I weren't doing injectibles. Are you doing the shots this cycle? I'm rooting for you!

Irish - Sorry about the spotting, that can be unnerving! I've heard that Red Raspberry helps with the lining, and the ACP definitely does. Good luck with your test on Monday! If that DHEA works, I'm getting a case of it!

Jennifer

[Sunny]

My last cycle was with clomid/IUI....maybe that's why they weren't really into giving me the prometrium. Yes, I am doing follistim this cycle, I am only 3 days into injections so far. Tomorrow morning is b/w and sono.

Crazy-I think 3-4 follies sounds perfect! You don't want too many and get a cancelled cycle!

Arie-good luck if you decide to test!

[sweetbabydreams]

Sunny - Good luck tomorrow!! Can't wait to hear what the u/s shows. You're right, clomid probably doesn't have the same effect as the FSH on prog levels. Don't you love feeling like a chemistry experiment?! Oh well, whatever works!

[CrazyinLA]

Sweetbaby: Once again, you're right - 4 is a good number. I'm going in tomorrow and plunking down that dough to see those damn follies - it's like an internal peep show at this point. I forgot to say congrats on AF! I remember crying when I finally got a BFN after my second m/c. All aboardddd....Crazy Train is leaving soon!

Sunny: Let us know how the u/s and bw go!

PG baby: Good call on the baby aspirin - I forgot about that. How much do you take?

Arie: This may sound silly, but how did your RE decide you needed progesterone? My RE is convinced DH has the IF problem, but I sort of wish he would run some tests on me.

IrishAnnie: Is DHEA an injection? Or a supplement? Did you have a px for it? I'm like a tcc junkie right now...

[pgbaby]

CrazyinLA: my baby aspirin schedule was supposed to start between cd1-3, one per day with food. My stomach doesn't take aspirin well so I started on cd3.
-pg

[arie]

Crazy - Progestorone - my cycle is too short some month and progestorone can't hurt, so I asked RE for them he did not think they were nessesery. I'm taking suppositories, they are like small candels so they don't bother me.

BTW: Nurse said they do beta at 16 DPO if no AF.

[CrazyinLA]

HOLY COW!

CONGRATS ARIE!!!! Have a very happy and healthy 9 months!!!

[sweetbabydreams]

Arie -- Fantastic news!!! Go injectibles, go ACP! And what a great birthday present. I know you're being cautious until the numbers double (I totally understand) -- but still -- I'm so psyched for you!

Jennifer

[Irishannie]

Arie, congrats that is wonderful news, way to go. I just received my Infertility book and it is a great read. Double numbers double.

Annie

[arie]

Thank you ladies my first beta is 66 can't wait for the second.

[Irishannie]

Arie, good luck on your second beta. Keep everything crossed for you.

[arie]

My second beta was 79 so it looks bad!

[bohemians]

Arie, I'm sorry to hear about your 2nd beta not being what you/the RE wanted. This was your first IVF, yes? Are they calling it a m/c or are they doing the wait and see with another beta? There are many reasons for the 2nd beta not doubling. Occasionally it will be that there were two and one didn't make it. They often will have you get one more beta test to confirm or not confirm a diagnosis.

[arie]

Bohemians - It was an IUI, I only had one mature egg. I have an appt Monday with RE and HCG test. RE orderd another beta for monday - I did not have a M/C yet and my temps are still high. I hope it's not etopic.


For some reason RE insisted on making time for me early in the day, I originaly had an early afternoon appt but RE wanted to see me earlier in the day - Makes no sence to me at all - If anyone has any idea why that might be? May be he wants to do an emergency U/S? ....Ok my mind is going to bad places. If he is afraid its ettopic and wants to know right away an earlier appt with time available from my original appt to review would make sence.

[bohemians]

He may be wanting you for more b/w. In our RE's office, they do b/w appointments from 7a.m.-9:30 because they send off the b/w to have results back by 11:15 or so. He's probably going to do an u/s to see if it's implanted and if so, b/w to see if the beta has gone up or not to give you the next course of action: either waiting for the 6-7 week u/s (or whenever it's supposed to be) or telling you to go off your estrogen & PIO shots (if you're having to take them). Just a guess, but that's my guess. Good luck tomorrow.

[arie]

My HCG is 74 today = not viable.

[bohemians]

Arie-I'm so sorry. Do something nice for yourself and try to move on to your next step. Take care.

[CrazyinLA]

Oh, Arie - I am so sorry. It is heartwrenching to go through this. Let us know what the doctor says your next step will be.

*HUGS*

[fishdoc]

Arie I am so sorry - trust me that many of us here know how difficult this is, and we are always here if you need to vent or complain or - well, we are here for you.

As I always suggest, give yourself time to grieve about this (it is ok to cry, get mad, be depressed, etc), and things will start to look better when you get a little time.

Hang in there

Fish

[arie]

Ladies, Fishdoc,

I just have to ask. I'm doing IUI/injectables follistim 150 agai. In June's cycle my E was low until the end and than still not that high. This month my E was 90 on day 3, today its 450 on day 10. Does any one have an opinion if this is good. It seems very strange to me to have high numbers all of the sudden.

[sweetbabydreams]

Hi Arie - Your day 3 E2 level is on the high side, from what I understand. I think they like it to be under 80 or so. But the day 10 level reflects the growth of your follicles. Have you had an u/s yet to see how many are developing? My RE said they look for levels of about 200 per follicle at trigger time. Good luck, and keep us posted about further tests, u/s, other developments!

Jennifer

[LoriBethRose]

Hi Arie....I found this web page awhile back that I found to be very helpful when trying to figure out if my numbers were "good". http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html

According to this page, on day 3, E2 should be 25-75 (Levels on the lower end tend to be better for stimulating. Abnormally high levels on day 3 may indicate existence of a functional cyst or diminished ovarian reserve.)

On your surge/hCG day (which for me was CD10), E2 should be 200+ (The levels should be 200-600 per mature (18 mm) follicle. These levels are sometimes lower in overweight women.)

Is it possible that you may have had a cyst or two? I had a small cyst this past cycle and was very concerned it would cancel my cycle, but it ended up going away on its own.

Good luck to you this time. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you!!

xxoo,
Lori

[arie]

Thank you Lori, Sweeybaby - I put a call to the nurse to check my base E number. I think I remembered wrong. I deffinetly have no cysts per sono and nurse. I curently have five follicals 14,13,12,10,10. most likely I will have 2 or 3 mature by ovulation. My June's CD11 E was 344. yesterdays CD10 was 450.

Nurse just called and went over labs again my day 3 E was under 32. so I remembered very wrong. I feel better and stupid. Ok so I'm doing a bit better than last month hopefuly one extra follical better.