Waitin to get goin' again - PART 3!!

[MrsBritney]

Hi there everyone.
Thought this might be nice so that we dont have to keep goin thru so many pages!!

How is everyone doing today?

Amanda - I am glad you got that all taken care of. I know it is not the best of situations, but at least you are on the way to starting over! And that is the best part. I waited one full cycle to make sure that my endometrial layer was thick enough to support a growing fetus. When you have a D&C they sometimes scrape away lot of stuff and it is healthier to let it go one cycle just to make sure....

Amber - how did your test go? And did you say you had one more? ARen't finals a B*tch? Did you and your DH buy a house? Or are you renting? IT was such a GREAT day when DH and I moved into our very own house.. I felt so proud of what we had accomplished!!

Girlie - How are things going with you? Are your levels all of the way back down yet?

TTCinNC - you were right, I did miss the 25 page cut off.. and altho I have switched to the new thread now.. I didn't use the cool title I wanted to.. mostly because we had 2 BFP's over the weekend..

Victoria- how are you feeling? have morning sickness yet?
same to you amber? how are you ladies.... what kinds of thoughts are swimming thru your head now?? I just wonder.. so that we all can be prepared for whenever we get pregnant. :)

Gwensmom - how are you doing? I have been praying for everyone on these boards... I hope that you are doing alright..

Purple - that is awesome that it looks like AF is on her way! how cool!!! Now you can get thru another cycle and get things taken care of if you know what I mean!!

I just wish everyone the best...
I am doing ok.. still feeling "Bleh" if you know what I mean..
I think it is this whole job thing that is getting to me.. but other than that I am ok. DH and I have been arguing because I feel like he is really slacking on helping out at home.. but it is probably because I work 6 days a week.. and only get one day off.. I need an entire weekend to myself to just relax and do what I want to do...
NExt weekend.. :)

But I am actually happy today.. I just wish I could go back to bed.
AF is over.. :) I am still up in the air if I want to TTC this month or not.. I go up and down and up and down.. So I have two more days till I am supposed to start OPKs... I dont know.. should I or shouldn't I?
:)
Time will tell!

Beth

[TTCinNC]

Hey, girls!

Beth - thanks for switching over! I guess we talk a lot, huh. You know, I think you should definitely do what you think is best. But in my opinion, if you have to ask, maybe give it another month without any real monitoring. Whatever works out to be less stressful. I have been tracking CM and O with my monitor for the sake of my ACP - but I haven't let either dictate my schedule. It's been nice!

How is everyone feeling today? How about our mommies?

I'm good, got CM today CD12. ACP was okay yesterday. I think it was too late in the day though. I was there past dinner time and the last part of my treatment I felt kinda queasy on the tummy. It was fine after I ate and I still feel relaxed! DH is going in tomorrow LOL.

[girliegirl]

Hello!
Thanks for the cool new thread beth!! Glad you are a little better, Sounds like you've got stress coming at you from all angles. I think those opk's can get to be a pain, and make me obsess more, like how dark is the line, darker, not dark enough etc... I personally use cm and cp as my guide. I did opk's for a few months to confirm that I knew what I was doing. I did. I bet in a few days things will iron themselves out and your stresses will be minimized and then maybe you will be in the mood to ttc. Take it a day at a time.

Amanda, How are you feeling today?

Amber, way to go on your degree! what did you get your degree in? Are you feeling pg yet? Don't forget to check in on us once in awhile, we want to hear how things are going for you.

Victoria, same for you! We want to celebrate your excitement with you!

Becky, I say try whenever you feel ready also. I don't get the "for emotional reasons" Emotionally, I would feel a whole heck of alot better if I was pregnant!!! I just got my beta last wed and it was finally 20 after a natural m/c. This sat and sun I felt like I was O, due to cm and cp. We bd on sat and sun am because I felt like it. If I get pg, I guess they will have to date my pg from that date. I am not feeling like it would happen cuz my beta was not zero, and cm was not what I would call "abundant", and I did nothing to maximize it. So that was my approach to the whole thing. As soon as I get my 1st real af, I am bringing out the big guns. Baby carrots, fertility blend, rasp. tea, preseed, you name it!!

TTc and Mickey, My acp is an MD in my dr. office. I hear he is very knowledgable. I have met him once, not a whole lot of personality, but the location is convenient and its my regular dr office. So I am going to give him a try. If I don't llike him, I will find someone in the next city, which is 40 min away. I am anxious to go to our apt on the 26th. we see both the re and then the urologist. I am wondering if dh's huge tobacco use could be affecting his s/a. We will see.

You guys will love this, my really good friend is getting married in 2 wks. Her df is such an ass, really bugs me. anyways she has been off bcp for a few months now, nothing has happened yet. She is anticipating it taking awhile for various reasons. He basically told her this weekend "don't worry about it babe, when you want to get pg, you just let me know and I will get the job done" PLEASE!! are you kidding me?? Like its so easy, and he is such a man, that he can get the job done. I wanted to puke! Well I am off to an apt to sell another condo in dh's sub, THEN off to the plastic surgeons office for restalyne injections. Love them. makes me look 10 yrs younger, and I can't do it when I am pg, so I have to fill up now, just in case! So I will be around my home office this afternoon, waiting for the swelling to go down, if anyone wants to chat!

[purplerain]

Hi Guys,

How are the new mommies to be?:D

Feeling Blah today. AF is not in full force yet so I have to wait till my first full flow day before I call my RE's office. HURRY UP AF!!! I am spotting a little more today so hopefully it will be soon! Can't wait to get this FET started!

Hope you all are having a good one!
Mickey

[lilliput]

Hey everyone!!

Beth - great call on the new thread!! Why no funky new title? As for trying again, I'm with TTC on this one. I say go for a minimal-stress approach again. BD whenever, wherever (and however ;)) you want or feel like. I think that if you are really stressed out about work and home life too right now, that the added stress timing TTC might take away some of the joy of the process. BTW, what happened to DH who cleaned the house from top to bottom?? I was so impressed by that!! I'm sorry if he isn't pulling his fair share around the house. Personally I think that DHs have these waves of being helpful and then being cavemen, like they have some sort of PMS or genetic misfire every now and then that makes them useless. It seems to come and go with my DH. Today was a good day, three weeks ago, it was like pulling teeth to get him to put dirty dishes in the dishwasher. How hard can that be? Hugs to you though, and I hope that you continue to feel better!

Mickey - come on AF!!! We are so ready for you to be able to have that FET too!! Routing for you!

Girlie - I pulled out the big guns this past cycle too! Raspberry leaf tea, but no preseed or fertility blend. Baby carrots are always around, but I didn't realize they qualified as a big gun. Or was that a joke, cuz they're baby carrots? Ooh, I love your story about the manly man being so manly! By any chance does he drive a very "manly" car too? Sorry, I'm feeling sassy today!

As for me, told DH this AM, and he was in his own special quiet way very excited. Took him a few minutes to figure it out though. I am not very creative at these things, so I just said "guess what?" Now isn't that about the most original, romantic thing you've ever heard?? What the heck was I thinking! Anyway, called the doc's office this AM, and they can't see me until JUNE!!! All I could think was "is every single woman in this county of like 10,000 people tops pregnant right now?" I am in shock, but am hoping that perhaps they'll be able to get me in for some bloodwork before then.

Hope you're all having a great day! I'm headed back to my lovely new purple Dyson vacuum! Love it, love it, love it! Who would ever have thought that I would like a vacuum!

[lilliput]

Oh one more thing. Girlie, I didn't have great or abundant CM during o time this cycle either, but we did "maximize" our opportunities, unbeknownst to DH, since he didn't even know I was o'ing. Point being, you never know!!

[MrsBritney]

OK ladies - I decided to make a second post today beccause I just didn't feel like working right now!!

Nice to see you all here on the new thread..
I am so sorry that I chose the same old boring thread title! But next time will be better.. I promise! :) I just figured since we had two PRego's on the thread.. I couldn't put "ttc in new and exciting ways" .. hee hee

I am agreeing with you ladies.. and I am not going to stress over ttc right now. I am feeling better now.. I just sometimes have bad days..

DH hasn't done anything bad, and he wasn't feeling well all weekend.. but I was still upset that he didn't even go to Home Depot and get carpet tape to finish the patch job we did over the weekend on our carpet where my moms dog dug a huge hold in the carpet.. I was probably being unreasonable, since he didn't feel well.. so I am going to chalk it up to me being tired.
He did do the dishes and picked up the bedroom.. but sometimes I just have days where I am irritated by him for no good reason. and then this morning while we were walking the dogs he managed to step on the back of my shoe TWICE and I almost fell on my face BOTH TIMES!! So.. It was just one of those mornings.
However, I have made a conscious decision to NOT be in a bad mood anymore.. and to give DH some lovin tonite.. that is, unless we get home late and Gilmore Girls is on!! Then no WAY! :) Love me some Gilmore.
Girlie - keep us updated on your beta! AF Will be here sooner than you think! Just keep on keepin on!!

Victoria - so DH was excited? That is awesome.. how is everyting else going?

TTC - Sounds like you are getting ready to O!! WOO HOO!

As for me.. work is sitting on my desk.. actually PILED on my desk. .I am just procrastinating!! I am so bad!

Beth

[AmberinGSO]

Wow! The board is crazy today! I go away for a few hours and look at all I've missed!
Beth- DH and I are renting a nice big house in a nice neighborhood with a big yard for our border collie to romp around in. Right now we live in a quaint little duplex, but it really isn't big enough for our pup and the entire house is hardwood and I don't like it so I'm ready to move out! I can't believe that happened to your carpet! Bummer! My dog likes to dig too, but I pop him on the nose when I see him do it. I hope you start feeling better and then you get more time off! You need more than one day off a week! You are gonna work yourself to death!

TTC- Glad the acp went well. Glad to hear you are about to ovulate. I really think that CM is the best indicator of ovulation. Even better than charting. If I would've believe my chart this cycle I would've thought tha I didn't even ovulate. It was absolutely all over the place!

Girlie- I got a bachelor of science in chemistry and graduation is Friday. I am very excited to finally be done because I really busted my butt! Your story about your friend's DF made me laugh. I remember when DH and I were in our early stages of dating (not THAT early) and didn't have any protection one night I told him to just not worry about it and he said "NO I have swimmers! My mom told me!" I laughed and laughed about that. Men are the strangest creatures. We really are the stronger sex in my opinion. When will you find out about the s/a? I can't wait until your first 2ww since you are bringing out the big guns! THe only thing DH and I did different this cycle is we had sex everyday days before and days after ovulation.

Mickey- Forgive my ignorance, but I don't know what an FET is! I hope AF shows up full force soon!

Victoria- Yay! You told DH! That's so exciting! I'm a loud mouth over here that has already told half the country. That stinks about the doctor not fitting you in until June! I couldn't get in for bloodwork until May 18th. They said they would schedule an u/s after the bloodwork results. Are you feeling pregnant yet?

So, I called my dad to tell him I was pregnant (my parents are divorced) and his girlfriend was over and when he answered the phone I said "Hey grandpa!" and I told him and then his gf (who I hate by the way) buts in and is like "She's pregnant? How does she know?" So I told her I took two tests that were both positive and my period is a no show and she said "Oh well that doesn't mean your pregnant. You might not be!" I really can't stand this woman. I don't know why that bothered my so much, but then my dad started believing her and told me he would call "and see if I was pregnant next week after bloodwork" Grrr that made me mad!
As for how I"m feeling, I am terrified all the time. So, scared of losing this one too. Pray for me that this one sticks ladies!

You all are so wonderful and I know you will all have BFPs very soon! I will be praying for each and every one of you until we can rename this thread "waiting to give birth"
Hugs!

[MrsBritney]

Amber -
What is wrong with your dads girlfriend?
How else does she think you know you are pregnant. If the tests show you are pregnant.. then you ARE!! And the fact that you misssed your period.. hello..
Does she not have any children?
I am sorry that they are acting like that.. but dont let it take away from the joy you are feeling right now!! That is so cool that you guys are renting a big house.. plenty of room for dog.. .and BABY!! WOo hoo!!
Yea.. I am not too keen on digging dogs.. which is why I have pugs.. but my moms dog was scared and in a new place and we locked her in the room.. even tho I told my mom not to.. she did it anyways.. which is why my mom is paying for the carpet patching!
Hopefully in the next couple years we can get our carpet replaced anyways.. which would be something I am VERY interested in. Lord I love owning my own house.. what a blessing.
I have so many good things going on in my life.. sometimes I need to stop and smell the sunflowers (I am not a big rose fan).

Anyhow.. how is everyone doing today?
Amber, Victoria? Any morning sickness? How are your boobies feeling? I am SO jealous! ... at leasT I am not hiding it! hee hee
But .. I think I am going to go ahead and try this cycle.. I thought about it alot last night and me and DH really think that this could be our month.. so.. we are going to give it a go.
Our only problem is I am SO tired at night I dont always want to BD!! Any help with ideas anyone?

OK.. off to do some more work!
Beth

I can't beleive no one has written here since yesterday at 11 am my time!! What is up with that my ladies?!

[TTCinNC]

Hi, Everyone?

How is everyone feeling?

Amber - Your dad's gf is such a witch, feel free to swap letters! I think she's jealous - probably worried about the baby stealing your dad's attention. Duh "how do you know" you should should have told her you peed on the back of a frog and waited for it to change colors!! :p

Victoria- How are you feeling today? Did you calculate your due date yet?
Amber/Victoria - when are you guys going for betas and u/s? Please tell me you are going to post pics! I have my godson's u/s pic on my desk lol - he's 5 months now! Ich bin sehr glucklich für du! Ich kann nicht bis ich schwange warten. Ist das richtig?

Girlie - Do you have to go in for any more betas?

Mickey - any info on AF's flight??

Becky - Praying for and thinking of you!

Beth - Have you guys tried Bd'ing in the AM. I also heard that it is best time for the swimmers. Where are you in your cycle now?

I'm still waiting to O, CM still around. We BD's twice yesterday just because - and I LOVED it! DH is going to see my ACP this afternoon, should be interesting lol.

[AmberinGSO]

Hi ladies!
TTC-The frog thing made me laugh hysterically! Your German is very good by the way. I have my first beta a week from tomorrow (May 18). That was the earliest they could get me in. They said they would schedule an ultrasound after that. I'm very antsy about it! Is this DH's first trip to the acp? I want to do that someday. Not sure when. BD like crazy and you will get your bfp. That's what I did this cycle. We bd'ed ALL THE TIME!

Beth- My dad's gf had THREE kids! I don't know what her deal is. She probably is just jealous. She is crammed so far up my dad's a$$ and she is ten years younger than him and I personally think she only likes him because he just came into some money. I'm glad to hear you are going for it this cycle! Just BD all the time. I swear it works. All the other cycles we bd'ed on ovulation day and maybe the day before. This time we had sex everyday for like 10 days straight. When you get tired just think of how you will feel when you see those two lines and just go for a quickie! Or like TTC said have you tried mornings? I know you work a lot so I could see how you could be tired! Good look this cycle though! I will pray very hard for you. You and all the women on this thread deserve it so much. I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is m/s...It's like I'm just turned off by everything. I can't think of anything I ever want to eat and then I think maybe I can eat this or that and I take one bite and gag and throw it away. I feel a little queasy all day pretty much and my boobs are VERY sore. I'm taking this as a good sign because with the last pregnancy I had very little symptoms.

How is everyone else today?
Hope you all find time to stop in! Back to work for me!

[MrsBritney]

TTC - I haven't actually thought of BDing in the mornings.. that is a very interesting idea.. I usually get up like 30 min before DH tho and get ready.. I suppose we could just take an extra 15-3o min to do it then too..
Hrm... that is a great idea!

Amber - BDing EVERY DAY FOR 10 DAYS.. that is a lot of BDing.. I was thinking every other day until I had fertile CM and then every day for 3 days.. and then back to every other day till I am late... what do you think of that? I suppose we could try.. we have to start tomorrow.. I can't believe I am already CD7 today.. I feel like time is flying REALLY fast.
I know we will all be there all fat and pregnant and uncomfortable. .and we will all be loving every single minute of it! No matter what our bodies are telling us!!

How is everyone today?

Girlie - when is your next beta? FEeling any AF symptoms?

Roberts- how are you feeling? Any more cramping or bleeding..
Did they have you take any meds to help shrink the uterus..?They gave me methergine after my D&C... twice..because I started cramping and bleeding a week after the D&C again.. it was a LOT of pain.. I was sitting at my desk at work SWEATING because the pain was so much. But I didn't say a word.. I was all nice and quiet and I did my job!!

PURPLE - how are you feeling? Full force AF yet? I am missing your chats!!

If I missed anyone.. dont hate me!!!

Beth

[purplerain]

WOOOHOOOOO

AF IS HERE! AF IS HERE! I called my RE's office and they are getting my schedule ready for FET (I had IVF and had 5 leftover embryo's on ice so they will be transfering those back into me this month, ususally 2 at a time-Frozen Embryo Transfer). I have to do another test to make sure I have no polyps, and then its on to the transfer. Starting next week I have to up my acupuncture to twice a week until the transfer. Then she does a treatment right before the transfer and then right after too at my RE's office!!

Yeah!!!!

Mickey

[MrsBritney]

Purple - AWESOME!! I am so happy for you!
It sounds like you are on the right track!
You have frozen embryos?
I would love to hear more about that.. What do you have to go thru and does it hurt to do that?
You dont have to talk about it if you dont want to.. I am just interested, that is all!!

But I am so happy for you!!

My AF is gone totally and I am CD7 today.. which means that I am starting to BD tomorrow.. isn't that crazy?

Time flies so fast....

beth

[girliegirl]

Hi everyone, Not having a good day. Yesterday 14 yr olds principal called and said they suspended her for 3 days because she and another girl made up a "my space" website for some nerd girl basically mocking her. I was livid. So needless to say there was alot of drama over here last night. SHe said alot of mean things and I am bummed that she would do something like that. I am exhausted and depressed today. The m/c is bothering me today more than usual. And I am feeling like I shouldn't even be having another kid, clearly I am not doing too hot a job with the 3 I've got. ANyways, I was supposed to go for a beta tues or today. didn't do it. its a 40 min drive. not in the mood. I guess I'll try to go tommorrow. I don't see what the big deal to check it again is. It was 20 last week, it wouldn't go up again would it?? I saw the acp today. He basically gave me info and i made an apt for 1.5 hrs June 9th. He did seem very good and he got his training from ucla. He seemed to think he could help me. Anyways, sorry I am not to peppey today! Trying to figure out what to do with my dilinquint(sp?) child for 3 days that she's home. Sounds like all of you are good!! Glad to hear it! We don't have time for all of us to be in the dumps!!!

[AmberinGSO]

Girlie- You ARE a GOOD mom!! What your daughter did is normal! Girls of that age do stuff like that all the time. They feed off of each other when there is more than one of them too. I wasn't a mean child but I do remember doing silly things like that when I was young. To be honest with you, girls in their early 20s still do stuff like that. I was in a sorority in college and boy you wouldn't believe some of the catty stuff they do that is way worse than that and they are grown women so they have no excuse. Frankly, I don't think the school should have the right to suspend her unless they made the site at school. I think they should let your know it was done, but I don't know what it has to do with their school environment. I'm sure you know all this as you have more experience with children than I do, but just try not to feel too down about it! You aren't a bad mother because of it. Sorry you're having a bad day with the m/c thoughts. I still get them too five months later. I think sometimes you just have to take a day and be sad. I understand what you mean about not wanting to drive the long way to the doctor now that you were at 20 last time. I think they just follow the standard procedure of getting you down to 0 so that's why they keep having you come in. If I remember right they even made Beth come in again after she got a reading of 5! That poor girl went in more times than anyone I can think of! I used to HATE to go in for the blood draws and see on the pregnant women in the waiting room. I would bawl everytime I was in there the whole time I was in there. I know you will get a BFP soon and you will be so happy. Just hang in there. Your miracle is coming! Hugs

Mickey- Yay for AF! I can't wait for you to get your FET going! THis is going to be so exciting!

Beth- Glad to hear it's about time to start BDing and get that BFP! you will be preggo before you know it!

I gotta run ladies! I have one last paper to take care of!

[girliegirl]

Beth- I forgot to tell you. we pretty much only bd in the a.m. Dh works long hrs developing his sub and when he comes home at 9 or so he eats and drops dead. So I set the alarm for 6, 45 min early, gives us a little cuddle time no matter what then we either bd or sometimes take a shower together. Also, they say the sperm count is higher in the am. So anyways try that. We seriously would never bd if it wasn't for morning! I have gotton to really like that closeness in the morning, it puts me in a good mood all day!

[lilliput]

Hi guys! Gosh, I've been delinquent over here!! I feel so guilty!!

TTC - Dein Deutsch ist gut. Es gibt nur einige Dinge, die du korrugieren kannst in deinem laetzten Gespraech. Das wichtigste ist das leider in der deutschen Sprache der Verb kommt and Ende der Satz. Nicht immer, aber meistens. Zum Beispiel: "Ich kann nicht warten, bis ich auch schwange bin" (directly translated - I can't wait until pregnant I am - it's like talking Yoda talk). Das alles kommt bestimmt mit Uebung. Hopefully that made some sense. it's tough grammar, even though some of it is very similar to our grammar. It also just takes a while to learn some of the preposition rules, like what case goes with what prep (her or she)....Anyway. Glad to hear the BD marathon has begun, and that you are enjoying it so!!

Beth - I went with the plan that you've got going. Every other day starting CD8. OPKed on CD10 and got a blazing positive which was completely unexpected. Then BD'ed 3 days in a row, plus one for good measure. DH had no idea I was o'ing, so that kept him nice and relaxed and helped us both enjoy things even more. In fact last week he thought I was o'ing and that we needed to get down to business so that we didn't miss an opportunity. Naughty me didn't let him in on my secret till yesterday! :)

Mickey - HOOORAHHH for AF!!! It's not very often that one gets to shout that out!! Ooh, I am excited for you to get going on the plan for the FET!! Sending you loads of positive vibes, prayer, and sticky, sticky baby dust to start putting in reserve for when you have the transfer done!!!

Beth - Glad to hear that you are feeling better about going for it! I'd say do mornings if you are too tired at night. I've never been a huge morning BD fan, but sometimes I oblige DH. Haha. I think if you'll enjoy it more if you're not as tired, then go for what you enjoy, and adjust the BD schedule to accommodate. We had the same problem for a long while, of being too tired to BD, and ended up with a crap sex life. Then we decided to go for it in the middle of the day every now and then, and that helped immensely!

Amber - Gosh, what an amazing GF your dad has got! Unreal! I'm sorry you've got to deal with that right now. Sounds like you've got some preggo tummy going on there. I wouldn't really know, since i haven't really had that feeling of gagging or anything yet. I was nauseous 10 days ago....does that count?

Girlie - sorry you're having a tough time at home right now. I'm sure you're doing a great job as a mom. Teenagers are tough, and girls can be especially mean. I've been the victim and the perpetrator on that count.... I'm sorry you're down about the m/c as well. It sounds like having a little bit of that closeness in the morning might be what you need tomorrow AM!

As for me, I'm a little more tired than usual. No nausea. No sore bbs (every now and then they ache). I've had cramps on and off all day, which sends me straight to the bathroom to waste some time obsessing over TP in there. Had cramps yesterday too, but not as much as today. I am not getting a beta. The nurses didn't think it's necessary. I think they think I'm crazy to think I ovulated on CD11, since they asked me how I knew I did.... I'm a little nervous and scared right now (broke down in tears this morning during milking chores), mainly b/c of these cramps. I'm approaching what would be my old time for AF to show, and even though I got my BFP with an HPT that only shows pos if you're period is late, I'm still worried that she might decide to make an appearance anyway, just to be a spiteful old hag. that of course wouldn't be just old AF. Sorry for venting. I'm trying to stay upbeat and not worry too much, since otherwise it's going to be a LONG 3 weeks before my 1st appointment. I just want the cramping to go AWAY!!

I have to run. Will probably not get to check back in till tomorrow AM hopefully. I'm planning on telling my coworkers by Friday probably, b/c I think my work is stressing my body too much, and my main concern should be for the bean, not for the frickin' cheese! Hugs all around!!!

[lilliput]

TTC - I just realized that I made the same mistakes in my grammar that I was pointing out in yours! How embarrassing :O sorry. Anyway, my first sentence should read: "die du in deinem laetzten Gespraech korrugieren kannst." and also "das Verb am Ende der Satz kommt" It doesn't happen all the time...I promise...

[girliegirl]

Victoria Just wanted to say it sucks you have to worry at all, you should just get to be excited about being pg with NO worries. But I know after a m/c anyone would be the same way, I am sure after you pass a certain point you will be able to relax. I read on a website recently the statistics for m/c a 2nd time and it was pretty low, so I would say statistics are definitely in your favor. Also when I was pg with my 3 kids I always had cramps for the first 3 wks or so, I was always running to the bathroom to check, however they were all 3 very strong pregnancies with no problems.With the m/c I didn't have the cramping in the beg. at all. don't know if there is any connection there, but I just wanted you to know I think the cramping is very normal. I will be sending positive energy your way. ANd you're right the baby is more important than the cheese! I think of you everytime I eat cheese now!

Amber- Your dads gf is a bitch. end of story. I can't believe she would be that cruel. Just focus on all of the positives in your life right now, and there are lots of them!

TTC- Let us know how dh does with the acp! I can't imagine my dh doing that, he would be like "NO WAY"!!

Mickey- want to hear more about the frozen egg transfer. I am also unfamiliar with that. Glad to hear you are on your way this month.

[Gwensmom]

Hi Ladies -

I came back to work this week and boy has it been a challenge. Luckily I only work a 1/2 day since we have a 6 year old foster son I have to get home for. He is special needs, so he is quite draining. Actually, this past week he has really changed around me. He didn't know I was pg again, but we had told him all about Gwen as he has to sit through our therapy sessions (he plays in the corner). Anyhow, after the m/c last week, my dh told him about the loss. Since then, it is like my fs knows I am weak and fragile and he totally takes advantage of the situation. He has make me break down in tears once, and I sure came close last night. My dh has been great about it, and we had a long family meeting last night that I facilitated. I explained that fs's behavior was unacceptable and we would not tolerate his defiance and poor behavior. It is still so draining...I hope I can handle him for the next few months. My dh is a child therapist at an agency for severely abused and troubled kids. (heartbreaking!) We decided to get involved with fostering due to the need for good homes for these kids as they transition out of residential care and into permanent placements....my dh was really excited about this and he convinced me. It had been going really well, until now...as I am so emotionally wrecked that I don't know if I can handle this! My dh knows my feelings and he has stepped up this week...but still, I just wish it were just he and I for awhile so that we can process this profound loss. We can't though, so we are trucking through. Sorry to vent, but it has just been so difficult for me. I have so little patience for fs right now too...I just wish he wasn't acting out like crazy!

My bleeding stopped yesterday, but started again today. I remember that after having Gwen (I went through 52 hours of labor with her...feels so long ago)...I even called the hospital to make sure the stopping and then starting of the bleeding was normal. Of course they said yes. I guess it is normal after a m/c too.

Victoria...I know it is so hard to not stress about every little thing! With this last preg I wish I had enjoyed the moments more, felt the joy. But then I guess it is our body's way of protecting us...I can't wait until you are further along and you can breath that wonderful sigh of relief and just know that your baby is going to be fine. That time will come, for all of us! I do think it is a really good idea to share your news with your work...you are right to focus first on the little bean and then second on work!

Amber... I can't believe your father's gf was so rude. I am sorry you had to hear that from her, don't believe a word from her mouth! Surround yourself with positive people, it is totally okay to stay away from people who are negative! I have pretty much avoided all phone calls from everyone I don't think will be supportive. Thankfully we have caller ID, so I have been the queen of screening calls. Some days I simply don't talk to anyone...I just need Becky time...and for me now that just has to be okay.

Mickey...I am with the other ladies, I don't know much about FET...but I wish you all the best! Your excitement is infectious! I can't wait to hear about the process and your success!!!

TTC...I hope the bding is going well...of course it is !!! :)


Girly...We conceived this last time with an am bding....I think I am always a little more relaxed in the am, especially on the weekends. I love that you purposefully set your alarm early every morning so that you can have some time with dh. That is a great idea, and one I hope to implement!! :) My dh is sure fond of his sleep though, I may have to work on him a bit.

Beth...happy bding to you starting tomorrow. I wish I were there with you....ever since the m/c I feel such a strong need to be close to dh. When we are apart I feel so such despair, but the minute he is home from work and close by, I feel so much better. I was like this last time too, very clingy after losing the baby. Best wishes to you for this cycle!!!

Okay, I better get going as laundry doesn't do itself in this house :) Blessings to you all TTC and the TTC graduates!

[lilliput]

Just a quick check-in girls!!

Amber - I hope you don't think I thing your dad's gf is amazing in a good way. I find her amazing in an unfathomable way! Crazy lady!

Becky - It's very admirable of you and DH to take your foster son into your home. I personally don't know if I'd have the strength to do what you do. I'm glad that DH is being very supportive of you during this difficult time and helping out with your foster son as much as possible. I hope that his misbehaving passes, and that he stops taking advantage of the situation. You are an amazingly strong woman, and I really hope that the coming months bring you many, many blessings! You certainly deserve them!

Beth - I feel like a moron writing pretty much the same thing twice in last night's post. I guess it must have been important! :) I must really want you to get down to business!!

Girlie - Thanks for helping me relax. I'm doing much better today. DH kind of pointed out the same thing, that perhaps it is a good thing to be cramping? who knows. I think every woman and every pg is different, and only time will tell! I really appreciate your sharing the way your own pgs went at the beginning. It is a big comfort for me!

How is everyone else? Like I said, I'm much better today. Minimal cramping, more like a tightness across my lower abdomen. Tired again, which is a relief. I think that will make it easier for me to not devote so much of my energy to the cheese. Things at work aren't going so well, which for me is oddly a good thing, since it means that nobody is getting anything done, so perhaps no one will notice if I don't finish my work either! isn't that weird?? And for the life of me I can't remember if I took my vitamins this AM. I don't want to take another and OD on iron though, so I guess I'll just have to stick it out till tomorrow....oops....space cadet.

Anyway, I hope you all have a great day! It's shaping up to be another long one here, but DH admonished me not to push it. So that is my plan!! Hugs all around, and hope to check in again later!
Victoria

[lilliput]

Oh, and I had to lie to my pastor of all people yesterday!! i usually take care of his cats while he is away, and he asked me to watch them for 10 days starting next week, and I had to say no (staying away from litterboxes!) and exaggerate my workload to keep from telling him I was pg. I just wasn't ready to tell him yet! I feel so horribly guilty!!! Isn't that awful??? :)

[AmberinGSO]

Hi ladies! Seems quiet around here today!

Becky- I think what you are doing with FS is amazing. Not many people would be willing to take in a child like that. Sorry he is giving you such a hard time though. You must feel so overwhelmed with going back to work, FS and just feeling sad. I wish I could just give you a big hug. I wish you could just take a vacation somewhere far away and just get away from everything. After my m/c I laid in bed for weeks and just cried all the time. Sorry I'm not being much help am I? What I'm trying to say is that I am praying for you and I know some about what you are going through and I will keep praying for you. You have some good karma coming your way and I know that soon you will be holding your baby in your arms instead of in your heart.

Victoria- Glad to hear you are taking it easier on the job and that you've found ways to sneak around telling coworkers thus far. I always forget if I took a vitamin in the am too. It's that preggo brain.

I've been very emotional today. I'm just constantly terrified. It's really emotionally draining. I don't know what to do with myself...

I hope the rest of you ladies are doing well!
I'll check in later.

[lilliput]

Amber - I did take my vitamins it turns out! They make my pee neon yellow, and low and behold, I've got neon!! So now I feel better!

How is everyone today? Where is everyone today?

[purplerain]

Hi ladies,

Well I have my test scheduled for next week, and if all is clear, my FET will be scheduled for week and a half after that! So the process is still a little slow but started.

Lilli and Amber--How are you feeling? Hope all is well, hopefully we will be joining you soon!

Becky-Hope you are feeling a little better. I know it is so difficult. We lost our baby at 12 wks so it was very hard to get back to feeling ok. I am keeping you in and your family in my thoughts.

Girlie-How are ya?

Brit-Where are ya? Hope all is well!

Mickey

[MrsBritney]

Wow - I have a lot of stuff to respond to!
Girlie - That sucks about your daughter.. but dont worry about it. Girls are just like that when they get that age. They will do anything to fit in.. and if that includes making fun of other girls.. then they will do it. I am not saying it was right.. but it doesn't reflect on you as the parent. But hopefully you can sit down and talk to her about how things like that make the other people feel.. especially this day and age when people who are bullied come to school with guns.. I am sure you can sort it out.. but it sucks that you feel that way. I know you are a GREAT parent. .and you will through it!!
I think I will try your AM idea.. that sounds like a GREAT way to start the day for SURE! :) I suppose I will set my alarm, take my temp.. (hee hee) and try and BD!

Gwensmom - I am sorry that your fs was treating you like that.. how hard it must be for someone to be taking advantage of you in your current condition, that is not fair, but Iam glad that DH is stepping up and letting fs know that he can't be acting like that around you! Dont worry about not being able to be "close" to DH right now.. your time is very soon.. and it will happen for you I guarantee it! I have been kinda bitchy to DH for the last few days, I think I am just tired and I feel like my house is ALWAYS messy now that we are dog sitting for my sister... :( But I am really going to try and not be so crabby today.. that is my goal for the next week. :)

Lilli - I am thinking of doing the every other day thing until CD14 and then do it every day for like 4 days.. and then skip a couple days and do it one more time for good measure. So I appreciate the advice.. and it just shows that it works either way!! I am sorry that you are feeling all crazy about every little feeling you get, I think that is just natural for someone who has gone thru a miscarriage, you know what I mean? How many people have you told so far? I dont know how I will act when and if I get pregnant again.. but I know that I Am not goin to be as openly excited as I was before because I will be worried the whole time! Heck, I am already worried and I am not even pregnant! So I totally get what you are feeling!Also - that is ok to "lie" to your pastor.. I wouldn't worry about it.. you have things to take care of and dont want to talk to anyone about your little bundle of joy yet.. I see nothing wrong with that.. he will understand!

amber - again.. dont stress. I know that you will be worried up until you see that amazing haert beat.. but this is it for you.. it will all be ok.. Just try to enjoy the thoughts of a little one growing inside you!!

As for me.. Today is offcially CD8.. which mean I get to BD every other day now.. until next WEdnesday when I start doing it every day for 3-4 days..
So I am kinda excited.. I am sure DH will be MORE excited.. :) for SURE.
Hope everyone is feeling ok.. I am in a GREAT mood today!! YAY for thursdays!!

Beth

[lilliput]

Where is everyone? Or am I just completely addicted to the boards? Am I really that pathetic??

Things are OK on my end. Same old tightness across the abdomen, and some bloating. Oh so comfortable. Found out today that one of DH's best friend's and his wife just found out they are pg too, so that is very exciting. Honeymoon baby! I almost blurted out our little secret as well, but we are still very much on the fence about sharing the news with folks. DH is not acting nearly as excited as I am. He says he just wants to get past where we were before, so I completely understand. I feel the same way, but I can tell that things are different this time. I feel completely different than last time....

Anyway. Hope you are all doing great today!

[AmberinGSO]

Mickey- I am so excited that the ball is finally rolling for you! I will pray for you that this results in your BFP! You deserve it! I'm feeling fine. Just a little tired.

Victoria- What kind of prenatals do you have? I got mine at Wal-Mart and they don't do that, but I wish they did. I need an indicator like that. How are you feeling? I hope you aren't working to hard.

Beth- I'm trying to stay calm. I just remember last time I was pregnant I had this horrible nightmare and I called my mom to tell her about it and she said "Are you bleeding?" and I said no of course and she said "well then you are fine" and it turned out I wasn't. I think if I had spotting or cramping or something with the last m/c to indicate it wasn't working I would be ok, but the baby just passed away without any indication. That's what worries me. Sorry, I know I should just be grateful to be pregnant, but I just don't think I can handle another loss. Thanks for cheering me on though. By the way, why are you reading this? You should be BDING!!! haha How's the BD marathong going? I'm so excited for your 2ww. I think this could really be it for you!

Girlie, Becky, TTC- How are you?

Well, ladies, I am graduating college today. I am so excited. I have worked so hard for this and the day is finally here. Oh, and I wanted to ask you guys something. My boobs are growing out of control and I have always been slightly uneven up top. Not really noticable, but if I point it out to you, you can tell. Well, now the bigger boob is WAY bigger than the smaller boob. You can even tell when I wear shirts and stuff and I'm embarassed and have been wearing oversized tshirts for the past two days. Do you guys think this is a problem and do you think they will even out? Has this happened to anyone else? Just wondering...I guess I will just have to deal with my mountain and my mole hill...
Have a great day ladies! I am off to get my diploma!

[MrsBritney]

Hey there ladies!!

Lilli - It is completely understandable that your DH wants to make sure to get to a "safe place" with this pregnancy! I am sure that me and my DH will be the same when if/when we become pregnant again.. that is just the nature of it.. the miscarriage took all of the pure, unadulterated joy out of being pregnant and made us fear something that we should be over the moon about.. I mean.. we are still all over the moon.. but we dont have that virginal joy like last time.. it is very much cautious .. and we are almost unwilling to fall quite as much in love with this pregnancy like we were with the last..
But I am sure that after you get past that point.. you will be ok!! :) Just keep plugging thru and this time it will happen for you!!

Amber - Dont worry.. I got down to some BDing last night.. I am back at work this morning.. we are bding every other day till Wednesday, then every day for 3-4 days.. then skipping 2 days and bding again.. :) Trying to mostly follow the "Sperm meets egg" plan.. hopefully it works.. if not.. then next cycle, we will try something different.
Did an OPK yesterday, the line was barely even there.. so I am not going to be ovulating today.. but that is ok.. I can still BD!! HAH

I am feeling good.. have a lot of work to get done this morning. .so that sucks.. but what can you do? I work tonite at BBB and then tomorrow too.. tomorrow I will make tacos, and have a beer, and then we will BD again.. and Sunday I get to sleep in!!

SAd news... We found a baby bird in our backyard.. it fell (or was pushed) out of its next in the crook of the roof of our neighbors house.. Unfortunately none of our neighbors (or ourselves) had an extension ladder.. and we were unable to put the bird back in the nest and the wildlife people dont deal with songbirds, doves or pigeons.. so we didn't have anything else we could do other than move it from the back yard fence where we found it, to just on the other side of the fence in the front yard so that none of the dogs could get to it..
we gave it some shade for the hot weather today.. but I am doubting it will be alive after 10 am this morning unless the mommy feeds it.
So I am sad about that today... felt like a helpless mommy .. couldn't even help a little tiny bird.. he was so cute too..
I called like 5 peopel.. and no one knew what to do.. so I had to just pray that God knew what he was doing.. and I left it up to him... last time I tried to save a bird.. it died.. in my care..
So...

beth

[girliegirl]

Beth how is the birdie? Poor litttle thing. Sounds like you guys are getting in lots of bd! Good for you. did you try the a.m. thing yet? Why are you guys so busy at work if they are going to lay you off? Do they want you to get alot done before your leave or something??? I was thinking about your photography. What do you think of photographing births? There is a lady here who is well known who does that. Her work is beautiful. Her name is Harriette Hartigan and she has a website. Just put her name in the search and you will find it. Let me know what you think of her stuff. I think its really cool. I love the one of the mom pulling her baby up as its being born.

Becky- sounds like you are going through alot right now, just know we are all pulling for you and you will get through these tough times.

TTC- how did dh like the acp??

Mickey- what do you do? I never caught that. Whats the next step in you fet?

AMber- About the boob thing! I don't have a clue on that! I think that sometimes happens, not much you can do about it, maybe put one of those silicone things you get a vs in your bra??!! Feed your baby on that side first thing!!

Victoria- my dh had 2 m/c with his first wife, so he never acted super excited about me being pg. I think guys get a little hesitant to get to excited until they can really see the baby on an us. You will be over the worry hump before you know it, everyone here will keep reassuring you until that day comes!
DIdn't get a chance to get on here much, we only have 20 days until the parade of homes and 2 houses to finish! Plus having my delinquint daughter home.... Still did not go for my beta, maybe if I wait a few more days I will for sure get a 0!! Do you think they will send the beta police after me if I wait a few days??? I think I'll take my chances!

[girliegirl]

Here's a fun topic for us to debate. My best friend, Beth is her name. recently got out of a long term relationship, he wouldn't commit, anyways now she is starting to date again. Has been out with a few guys found this one she liked, slept with him, he had a tiny you know what and now she can't stand the sight of him!! I think she is totallly justified in not being attracted to him anymore. Just thought it would be fun to get all of your opinion. To bad we can't all meet for brunch like the girls on sex and the city and hash this over!!

[MrsBritney]

First -
Amber - the boob thing. .I hear that is VERY common.. and it happened to a couple of my friends! You could always go and get a little padding for the small one so that you dont feel so self conscious.. that is what I would do!! and I DID for my wedding.. well, I got bigger ones for BOTH boobs.. because I wanted bigger boobs for my wedding.. I have b cups! :)

Girlie- as for your friend... I AM TOTALLY ON HER SIDE.. FUnny that her name is Beth!! the EXACT same thing happened to me... and that is why I feel that I could NEVER wait for marriage for sex. I feel like if you take a CAR for a test drive before you buy it.. you should definitely take a guy out for spin before you commit.. but I could never be with someone with a tiny **** because my husband is well endowed.. :)
I dont know how the birdie is doing. .I did everything that I could.. I put the birdie as close to the nest as I could and even gave it some shade from the sun.. but we couldn't find an extension ladder to get the bird back up in the nest, and I know that things like that happen all of the time, I just wish it hadn't happened to me.. it just makes me incredibly sad.. And I feel badly for it. .I didn't even want to check on the bird just incase it had died..
DH will check it when he gets home, and then he will go and bury it in the green belt near our house if it is dead...
I would go ahead and go in for your beta, the sooner you know, the better.. but you can pretty much count on AF showing as soon as you hit zero!
The reason they follow you all of the way down to zero it so that they know it is not going back up.. which can mean something bad, but I dont remember what! :)
Anyhow.. Got to get back to work!
Beth

[AmberinGSO]

Beth- Bless your heart trying to help that bird! I hope that the mama will help it, but I doubt it. Poor little thing! Yay for the BD marathon! Thanks for the advice on my boobs. I'm taking all of next week off and staying with my mom and visiting with my sisters so I think I will just wait it out and see if they even out some and if not I will probably go get a fakie haha!

Victoria- The couple that is pregnant is that the same couple that had the wedding the same weekend as mine? That is so funny! Mine wasn't quite a honeymoon baby, but soon after. I'm afraid someday my kid will count back from his/her birthday and think DH and I got married because of an uh oh! Haha I don't really care that much but I hope not. My mom told me when I was a teenager that she waited for marriage. It wasn't until recently she admitted that she didn't. Are you still cramping? I'm worried because I'm NOT cramping. Last time I remember more pulling sensations. Do you think it's ok. Also, my boobs aren't sore anymore they are just a cup size bigger. I'm so worried! Any advice?

Girlie- I remember in the seventh grade I got in a fist fight and was suspended for five days and my mom made me pull weeds in the yard from sun up to sun down the whole time I was home! I never did that again. I just remembered that when you said you had your daughter at home! OH and I will def be feeding the baby on that side first. I guess it's my dominant boob! haha
As for Girlie's friend, I dated a guy for a little while a few years ago and I thought he was wonderful. We spent all kinds of time together and had a great time. One night when we finally did the deed...let me just say it was the smallest I had ever seen. I actually thought he must have had some kind of problem. He had trouble keeping the protection on! I just couldn't look at him the same after that. I know that may seem shallow, but like Beth (haha and Beth) I just can't be with a man if the bedroom life is not up to par. We broke up soon after and actually remained friends!
Still sitting around anticipating graduation at 1pm. I wish it would get here already.
Will you guys pray for me? My appt. is on Thursday for bloodwork and I'm really scared. I have been crying on and off since Sunday.
Have a great day and weekend ladies!

[girliegirl]

Oh Amber, I feel so bad you have been crying. Are you really nervous? I know I will be the same way, but it sounds like you have all of the good symptoms. especially the boobs!! ANd like I said before, if you have had 1 m/c the statistics are in your favor to not have another one. I will be praying for you and that you hurry up and get to a point where you can relax and enjoy this pg. Also congrats on graduating that is so awesome to get that done. You should be proud of your accompishment! I was 6 mos pg with my first when I graduated from college. Keep thinking positive thoughts about your precious baby.

[MrsBritney]

Amber-
I AM PRAYING PRAYING for you.. RIGHT NOW.

"Lord - please watch over Amber and her baby today. Keep her clam and help her not to be afraid for what is happening right now. Let her know that you are there for her and that you love her and her baby and you will do whatever you can to make this the one for her. And let her know that all of us ladies here on this forum are praying for her and that we are here for her. Amen."

That is what I am praying.

As for the boob thing, I agree with your decision to wait it out a week and then go for the falsies! :) I can't wait to have big misshapen boobs again.. hee hee!
I really wanted to help that baby bird.. but none of the wildlife places would take in a baby bird, they say there are already too many and that they have too many other animals to take care of.. So I am sad. I am sure it will die, but at least I did everything that I could.

And as for that girl - Beth - you tell her that we are here with her and totally know what she is talking about regarding that gjuys tiny ****. Those guys are for virgins ONLY. I happened to be QUITE spoiled with my first boyfriend. I was with him for 4 years and he was VERY well endowed, and we were together for 4 years, and since he was my first, I was open to whatever.. and well.. you know where I could go from there.. but we did a LOT of things.. so after him, I had to be VERY choosey if I wanted to have a good sex life! :) No small **** for me! (does that make me a bad person?)

[girliegirl]

Very thoughtful prayer Beth. I am joining you on that.

Where is everyone? Is our thread getting too boring?? I tried to spice it up with the small penis conversation!

One of my best friends is a gay guy and he said that gay guys like small penis' and I said then every guy with a small penis should just be gay because guess what.... Us girls don't want them, you gay guys can have at it!! I dated this one guy once and it was shockingly small and the kicker was in the morning he strutted around the house nude, like he was proud or something and I was so grossed out, I was like cover that nasty little thing up. Isn't that funny?! See what you girls are missing out on today!

[purplerain]

The pe pe posts are hilarious!!!! I was dying reading your guys' posts!!! Lucky for me DH is packin'!!!:D

Hope all is well with everyone! I am getting my sono done next Thursday to see what our next step is, plus I start bcp tomorrow. So we are just moving right along.

Amber-I will have all the same thoughts that you are having. I am sending you good vibes! I know your blood and u/s will come out perfect!!


Have a great weekend!
Mickey

[lilliput]

ROFL!!!! LMAO!!!! Oh my gosh, you guys are killing me!!! I haven't laughed this hard all day!! I absolutely love it!! You guys have all got the sassy attitude today!!!! Where are Mickey and TTC to help contribute to this sassiness??

Oh, gosh. Small penis conversation. I'll have to think about this one, and try to do a mental review of everyone....ah yes. Definitely did have one boyfriend with less than exciting male parts. And he did a lot of that strutting around too! I wonder if they think that somehow makes them bigger and manlier when they strut? Because I'd have to agree, it does absolutely nothing for me. I have to say though that the guy I lost my virgnity to in high school was definitely NOT of the small variety. So that was a bit of a challenging experience! ;)

Girlie - It would be great if we could all get together some day. I do think you should get your beta done at some point, just to make sure everything is OK and moving along properly.

Amber - try not to worry! Remember, every pg is different! My cramping has all but disappeared as well for today. And my boobs aren't really sore either, they are just really achy sometimes and I get these shooting pains sometimes. Otherwise, I am just really, really tired. Really, you owe yourself some time to celebrate your graduation! That is awesome! And taking some time to hang out with mom and sis sounds great. I'm praying for you for appointment on Thursday, but I have confidence that you and your bean are going to be fine! For me, I get peace of mind from the fact that I do feel completely different. I take that as a good sign, and it seems to help me relax a little when I am feeling uncomfortable or worried. I hope that helps, and please remember that we're all here for you and praying for you, and sending you loads of sticky, sticky baby dust! BTW, are you still grocery shopping alone?? :) And one more thing, it was the couple whose wedding we went to a few weeks ago! So we all stood around the calendar this morning just to make sure it really was a honeymoon baby!

Anyway. I have got to run. Hope you all have great weekends if I don't chat with you before then! I have to say, that you guys are so much fun, and so supportive, and really just wonderful. I am having one of those moments of feeling very blessed to be able to experience all our journeys together! Hugs all around, and thanks again guys for giving me a riotous laugh!!!

[lilliput]

Oh ya, and no problems on my home front with issues of too smallness. Very satisfied there....:D

[MrsBritney]

Hello ladies!!
Girlie - HAH.. about the gay guys.. well, my brother is gay, and I dont know that he has ever shared that information with me.. not that I would want to know anyways.. but I agree with you.. if gay guys DO love the smaller ones.. then I say that we need to loet those guys with tiny ***'s know so that they dont disappoint any other girls..
And let me tell you something.. that old saying "Its not the size that matters, its how you use it"... well that is about as big of a LIE as one could get!! Size TOTALLY MATTERS!!! I even have a t-shirt that says that.. "Size matters".. and I love it.. it is totally true!!
Also I forgot to answer you earlier - my work is working us REALLY hard right now because the company that bought us LOVES all of the datebases we have built since we have been there.. and we have a new product that we are working on and they love it and they want all of our stuff...
So basically ... we are working our ASSES off to get things done JUST so that they can take it from us.. move it to New Jersey and hire different people to work with it..
It really makes no sense. But Whatever, it just goes on my resume for things I have accomplished.. so that is alright.. and I am SURE that God is going to help me find a job that is even better.. and a job that PAYS me what I deserve.

Lilli - Oh yes.. I wanted to share that the prayer I have above, is the same prayer I am praying for you and your little one ... I want you guys to know that we are all on your side.. and we pray every day that you guys kepe carrying your little babies and that we all care about you very much!

Purple - how come you have to go on bcp - I am unfamiliar with the tests you are going under - if you have the time, could you explain a bit.. if you want to.. I would love to understand more about what you are going thru, so that I can pray more specifically!

I hope you guys are all having a GREAT FRiday.. I am headed out to my Bed Bath N Beyond job in a little while, and I hope to hear from all of you VERY soon!! This thread is something that I look forward to EVERY single day!!

I love you guys!!

Beth

[lilliput]

I'm assuming that everyone is just having a great Saturday!
Beth - that completely sucks about your job. Corporate America at its finest! BTW, have you used all the rooms in your house yet? Or is that reserved for the 3-day power BD marathon? Just teasing ya! :D

Amber - I am taking Rainbow One Light vitamins. Don't know if Walmart has them or not. I got them at my local chain drug store (Brooks, CVS, Kinney, don't know what you've got in NC). You could probably find them at a health food store too. They are an all natural vitamin, no preservatives or coloring, but they color my pee! I love them so far. I was taking their women's multi as well b/c it has lower iron than any other multi I could find (I have borderline high iron).

I'm not going to bother asking where everyone is, because it's the weekend! I am just home for a few hours to have a rest. I am so tired! My cramping is gone, which is a relief. And no m/s yet. I kind of want it, because that would be different than last time, and I just want everything to be different. Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers! They are working, I can feel it!

hugs all around, and happy weekend!
Victoria

[Gwensmom]

Ladies...Not too much to report here. I guess that can be good. We just did a family shopping run (I can't handle Costco and the grocery store alone these days - preggos coming out of the woodwork). We were SO low on everything...scraping out the fridge last night searching for something to eat. DH suggested the trip this morning, I think he was getting pretty hungry :D It is just hard for me to do those mundane, daily tasks when my emotions are going crazy. He understands though...and when he shops with me we totally end up buying way more! He is a big guy...6'4"...so there is a lot to fill :D Oh...and about your subject yesterday....I have no complaints about him either!!

I also just wanted to let you guys know how helpful it is for me to read what you write every day...hear about the normal day to day stuff...see how you all have managed to move on and are ready, willing....and successful at trying again. So thanks for that. Like Beth said, I look forward to getting on here and keeping in touch with you all every day...even on the days I don't write.

Blessings,

[MrsBritney]

LADIES!!
"Where my girls at, from the front to back... IF you're feelin that, put one hand up, could you repeat that, try to take my man, hey I dont need that.."
Oh.. wait... wrong group.. :) hee hee (sorry, old song stuck in my head, anyone know that one?)

Lilli - The rooms in the house we HAVENT done are the kitchen.. and the hallway.. :) We have christened both bathrooms.. both bedrooms and the living room.. we also need to christen the BACKYARD.. the only place I WONT do it is the hot tub.. NO freakin WAY.. nasty. Oh yea, and the garage.. Uh-uh *shakes head* I will not do that. But we did the couch and the floor.. oo... we need to take out the hide a bed from our new couch and christen that.. I forgot about that! WOO HOOOOOO!!
Corporate america BITES ASS. I mean really.. I have busted my ass *pardon me* for 4 YEARS for this company.. and look what I get out of it? 2 months severence.. of course, the experience is worth a WHOLE lot more!Oh yea, I use NAture Made Vitamins and they TURN MY PEE NEON TOO!!! I use the ones with only 50% daily Iron because I have high iron count too!! I got iron poisoning while taking prenatals last time.. how scary is that?
I am glad your cramping is gone.. I am sorry you are so tired.. but I would trade places with you in a heartbeat! Keep on keepin on!!

Gwensmom - Shopping was a chore for me too at first... especially since I work at Bed Bath N Beyond on the weekends.. I SWEAR to you at least 2/3 of all of the people who walk into that store are PREGNANT or JUST had a baby... :( It was SO hard to go back to work.. and then to find 3 of my coworkers found out they were pregnant.. but I pushed on.. and I focused all of my energy on being happy for them.. because they deserve it.. now I spend my days telling them "Hey - you know.. you are really starting to put on some weight.. " hahah.. it makes us all laugh!

Gwensmom - you have a weimaraner? I have two pugs.. Bentley and Sofie.. they are my babies.. and they are SUPER spoiled!

And I am with Gwensmom - I love reading what you all write, even if I dont have time to write that day.. keep it up.. you guys are my rock.. I lean on you when I need help.. and I love all of you !! you have become so important to me.. I just wish we all lived closer..
Woudln't a vegas trip someday be SO much fun!?!!

Peace to everyone.. I am going to be "Getting some" tonite!!

YEA! YEA YEA YEAY!!!

[AmberinGSO]

Hi ladies! Sorry I've been MIA for a bit. (Haha one day seems like a lot) I have been pretty busy here at my mom's house visiting with my family.

Girlie- Thanks for the thoughts and prayers! I'm trying to relax a little. As for the gay guy thing. I always wondered if gay men preferred smaller equipment in their partner. It seems like that would be...advantageous! How's your daughter? Have you guys smoothed everything out? When I was a teenager I got in trouble a lot and my mom would ground me of course and I would ask for how long and she would always say "Until Christ returns" Ok sorry I'm rambling. The parade of homes seems like a lot of work, but pretty exciting! Let us know how that goes!

Victoria- I feel completely different with this one as well so I am hoping that is a good sign. I did go shopping again for groceries, but DH went with me for fear of having crackers, ranch dressing and twizzlers for dinner! I will have to look into the vitamins. Mine are from WalMart and they are literally called Prenatal Vitamins. How are you doing so far? Tired? I hope you aren't working too hard. Isn't it weird to WANT m/s. I do too! My mom and sister think I am insane. I don't care. I think it would be reassuring!

Mickey- Good luck with the u/s. I'm with Beth though if you have time could you explain a little more. What is the bcp for? If you don't want to that is fine too. Just trying to figure out a little about your situation.

Beth- That stinks that you have to do all that work for another company to take over, but it is wonderful to put some new things on your resume! By the way I do remember that old song! and I know all of the words oddly enough. You need to break in that sofa bed girl! That could be the magic spot! How long until ovulation? I'm so excited for you!

Gwen- I am praying for you and glad you found time to check in. I also know how you feel about the pregnant women out and about. I used to go to the grocery store with DH to get something simple and say to him "How many preggos do you think are between me and this loaf of bread?" That phrase time heals all wounds, that is bullcrap, but it does dull it some. I hope that you continue to find the strength to take it one shopping trip at a time and I know that someday soon you will be ready to try again and when that day comes we will be right here cheering you on!

TTC- I hope the weekend is going well!

As for me, I've been having a pretty good weekend so far. I went yardsaling with mom this morning and she bought every baby outfit she found. She got like fifteen outfits for maybe 12 dollars and they were all really cute. At first I thought I was jinxing myself and I swore I wouldn't go near the baby aisle until I was well into the second trimester, but now after crying and worrying some over the past week I have come to the decision that if the Lord sees fit to take this baby from me then that is what he will choose an no matter what I buy or who I tell what will be will be. So I will just keep praying for all of us!
Hugs to all!
Gnite

[lilliput]

Well, ladies, here I am yet again....I think DH is getting jealous.... So last night, out of the blue, he asks me, "Do your friends online know that your pg?" (I know, kind of a dumb question), to which of course I replied, yes. Then he asks if I told you guys before him....uhoh. BUSTED! Now I'm in trouble! I felt so horrible! I think he was a little hurt, but I wasn't going to lie.... I tried to explain how this all works, but alas, I still think I hurt his feelings a bit. Bad Victoria! He's a pretty good sport though, and I made the point that he wouldn't have wanted me to tell him over the phone, and that I had planned to tell him in a nice romantic way (which of course, being the oh-so-creative person that I am, I failed to do). He seems fine today though. I think! Right now I am just trying not to be frustrated with him for not acting more excited. I totally understand why, but sometimes it bums me out and makes me feel lonely.

Beth - ya, I'd veto the hot tub as well! gross. Sounds like you guys are making your way through all the options really quickly! I understand no garage, but how about in the car?? And if you have two cars, there's that option. And if you have a motorcycle, well, that's kind of sexy too, but might be challenging....;) Just two months severance?? That is ridiculous. I'm glad to hear that you are taking the attitude that the experience has been invaluable! You are such an amazingly upbeat person! A trip to Vegas sounds like a blast! Or the spa....:)

Becky - I'm glad to hear you are getting out and about! It is hard at first, I agree. I remember when I first started being around pg people post-m/c. It seemed like the whole world was pg. Then a little more than a month later my SIL announced she was pg again. They try like once each time, and bang, they're pg. It sounds like DH is working on helping you out with some of the day-to-day things that become difficult. Are things improving with your foster son? Or is he still being terribly difficult? Sending you a big hug today!

Amber - sounds like a great approach! I think I have kind of come to the same conclusion, but we still haven't told anyone. DH is still kind of acting like this isn't happening, although he is trying to make sure I don't work quite so hard. Sometimes he is successful at that, sometimes not so much. But I'm getting better at recognizing when I need to stop.

Anyway, just thought I'd check in. I know it's the weekend, so all is quiet around here. Hope you're all having a great day though!!

[girliegirl]

Did someone say VEGAS?? I love vegas!! I went there 5 times last yr. a little ridiculous I know! Things kept coming up that were out there and we got married out there in Oct. How do you post pics? I will post a wedding pic from "The little white wedding chapel"!

Question. So assuming my levels are now 0. I am going tomorrow to get my beta done, unless one of my kids gets kicked out of school or something. ANyways, assuming my levels are at 0, when would af show up? minutes later, weeks, months? IS everyone different? When you get to 0 is it like the start of a new cycle where you would O 2wks later?? Just curious. I am over this being in limbo.

You'll love this, my last boyfriend before dh, married dh's ex girlfriend before me. (small town stuff) anyways she REALLY gets under my skin, she is like a thorn in my side for some reason. anyways we got engaged first, but then they all of the sudden were planning a wedding in like 2 minutes, anyways she was pg, and they were calling it the "honeymoon baby" when she was like 4 mos pg. When we had our wedding reception, they randomly showed up at the resturant and sat outside the room at the bar hanging out with all of our guests...So she has the baby on my dh's bday of all days, I swear she planned it. ANyways every time we are out we see them. SO today we go to this country club for brunch for mothers day and guess who is there with their new baby??? Our exes. My ex comes right up and says "you have to see the worlds cutest baby" I am like are you kidding me??? The first thing out of their mouths is that she is sleeping through the night, like I am supposed to be soo impressed with that. She drank through her whole pg so I was thinking "of course she is sleeping through the night, she is still drunk from the pg!!" ANyways happy mothers day to me.

Back to vegas. lets do it. HOw fun would that be?? Maybe if we plan a wild girls weekend full of lots of drinking, we will end up pg about the time the trip is nonrefundable!

[Gwensmom]

I have tried all day to not think about it being Mother's Day...but no such luck. It was last year on Mother's Day that my DH told me he was ready to start TTC....since then heartbreak twice! What was so funny about the timing of him telling me (finally...I had been ready for years :D), was that he had no idea it was Mother's Day. His poor mother...don't worry, I sent a card to my MIL...great woman!

So, today we all worked like crazy at the house. I know fun...well, actually it was better than going somewhere and seeing people who are celebrating Mother's Day. Anyhow, we started by scrubbing the house on the inside - DH is great at pitching in. I am thankful for that. After the house was clean, we took to the yard. We moved into our house last August (first house!) and we are still working hard to get things where we want them. A little old lady had the house before us, and she was an awesome gardener...but she planted things in places that don't make a lot of sense. So...we are working at moving shrubs and rhodies and other plants to better locations. It has been fun and so good for me to work outside since the m/c. Before the m/c I was really hesitant to do much...so now I feel like I need to work my body! I know I should probably not overdo...but that is not really in my vocabulary. My back aches now, maybe I can talk DH into a massage ?? :)

Anyone else watch Survivor? I have watched all seasons, I know...get a life! :D Anyhow, tonight is the finale and I have looked forward to it all weekend. Acutally, I just realized that on the East Coast it has already finished! Yikes!

Girlie...crazy story about your and dh's exes! I am from a relatively small town up near Portland...and everyone know's everyone! My parents still live there and last weekend when we went up to visit my dad and dh went to get firewood...well, it ended up they were getting firewood from the yard of my ex-boyfriend's parents...because they were clearing their yard for his wedding. Too funny. I guess stories like that make life interesting...or in your case maybe a bit frustrating!

Never been to Vegas, but definietly would love to go!

Off to get some dinner and then settle in for my marathon of Survivor :D

[MrsBritney]

Hi everyone!

Gwensmom - you are from WHAT small town near Portland? I am from small town Albany Oregon. :) I am SURE you have heard of it! I lived in Portland for three years while going to college at the University of Portland out on the bluff! Weird.. I never noticed you were from Oregon before!! How cool is that?! You know what.. yesterday, it being Mothers Day and all, I got to reflect on how I felt during my pregnancy and how proud I was that I was going to be a mom.. so I tried to remember every feeling I had while I was pregnant.. and it really made me happy that I had that chance, however so short, to be pregnant... and I can't believe you have never been to VEGAS!!! That place ROCKS So hard.. we would have a LOt of fun there!

Girlie - I can't freakin believe that about your exes... that much just SUCK..but you know what.. you must be at least a LITTLE flattered to think that these people have such boring lame lives, that they feel the need to try and "one up" you... ya know what I mean? You, of all people.. they are trying to mimick in everything that they do.. so not only is it flattering.. it should make you happy.. but it shold make you laugh to think how pathetic their lives are that they spend most of their days trying to figure out how to "Beat" you..!! HAHAH.. So dont stress about it!! You will get your baby, and I guarantee it will be 100 times cuter than their copy cat baby!As for your beta, when mine finally reached zero, it took me a little less than a week to get AF... and the doc said that was totally normal! So dont stress.. just get your beta done so that they know if you need to keep coming back or not! Oh yes, and I did say VEGAS... that place ROCKS.. we didn't get married there.. because we married in Oregon around our entire family... but the honeymoon was something I will never forget!

Amber - I can't believe that you remember that song! That is so cool! I am glad someone does, I didn't want to feel like an idiot! haha! As for ovulation, I think it is going to be around Thursday.. we are still on schedule.. tonite is time for more baby making! SO I have to get down to business between this job I am working right now, and my job at BBB, I have to work tonite.. so I think tonite will be time for a quickie! lol
I am so proud of you for going ahead and buying stuff for the baby.. this baby deserves to have JUST as much excitement as the last one and I am glad you are not hiding it. I can't say that I will be as brave as you.. but I totally have the utmost respect for you telling everyone right away again! You are so strong!

Victoria - OMG! You are SO busted.. that sucks that he asked that.. I hope he wasn't that hurt by us knowing first.. but that is kinda how it goes with people that have been thru the same thing as you.. ya know? I told my friend before I told DH last time.. and he knew.. he wasn't hurt because he knew that I was not 100% (I wanted to wait till I had been to the doctor) and also he knows that I wanted to tell him in some special way. But this time I will not do the same thing.. I, of course, will tell you guys first.. but I wont be telling my other friends until I tell DH.. mostly because I plan on keeping it a secret for a while longer.. until at least the first ultrasound!! :)

Ok.. so as for me.. things are going well.. I wish I didn't have to work tonite, but I took Saturday off of my second job.. I like having one weekend free a month.. and next weekend is labor day weekend.. so two long weekends.. it will be really nice!

I better jet - work to do!

Beth

[TTCinNC]

Hi, ladies, Happy Monday! And although belated, happy Mom's Day to each and everyone one of us!

I've been MIA for a few days, sorry about that . Just a lot to do and lot on my mind. This is hardly going to be a long post, just wanted you ladies to know that I've been reading and enjoying your posts, just not in a posting mood just now. I keep you all in my thoughts and prayers, though!

Don't know if I ovulated. Keep getting high readings with my monitor but no peak. Funny thing though, I got EWCM a few days after the first high reading, but now I have NONE. Ah well, we'll see what happens.

I'll write more later, love you girls.

:)

[purplerain]

Hi Ladies,

You gals were busy chatting this weekend! I had a very short weekend! Saturday I was stuck at Defensive Driving school so I could get out of a speeding ticket. SO that was anti-fun! But if anyone is interested in traffic laws and violations let me know, I am now an expert!;)

Ok so ladies I have gotten alot of questions regarding the FET process, I have no problems explaining it, I assume it is boring to people or that everyone already knows what it is. Anyway here it goes, the condensed version...

I had Invitro fertilization done in November. From that process that they had removed 9 eggs, all of which fertilized. They put 2 back into me after 5 days. THey froze the rest and 5 survived the freezing process. I am now in the process of having them thaw out my embryo's on ice to put back into me. They usually put 2 back in because I am under 36 with no other factors to worry about. So they have to do a sono-mock which is a test to map out the uterus to show them the best place to put the embryos back in, I am on bcp so they have complete control over my cycle and can pick the optimal time to put the embryos back in. Hopefully that clears up some questions. I also have to bump up my acupuncture to 2 times a week starting this week.

Hope you guys are having a good one! Oh I think someone also asked what I do, I am a guidance counselor at a high school. We are out of school at the end of next week! Yeah!!!! Only one more Monday!

Mickey

[girliegirl]

TTc- I was just thinking this morning that I hadn't seen you around in awhile, hope you are o.k. You know this will probably be the month you get pg, since it seems like you never O!

Becky, I do not blame you for staying home for mothers day, probably safer. I still run into people a month after the m/c that just heard that I am pg, then I have to tell them, it sucks.

Beth- That is so typical that your company is trying to get so much out of you guys before you leave. You have such a great attitude about everything though, that will take you far in life! I was going to go in for my beta this a.m., but I got side tracked again. I am going to shoot for tommorrow! I took a dollar $ hpt this morning, not fmu though and it was bfn. That last one I took turned a little bit bfp after 10 min, and that was when I was at 20, so I am assuming i must be 0 or pretty close to it. Yeah the exes have nothing on us, my dh said she looked old which I loved and my ex had the tiny penis! What a pair, they are trying to overcompenste for mis lack of a penis by bragging about the baby sleeping through the night!!

Amber, Victoria- How are the soon to be mommies?? AMber I am glad you are embracing this wonderful time. Have fun with it!

Mickey- interesting about the bcp's I thought those made you not ovulate. do you take them then they take you off and you O right away or something? I have heard of people getting pg right away when going off bcp's is that why?? One more week of school, that is great! What will you do for the next few months?

[lilliput]

hey everyone!

Becky - sounds like you had a lovely family day of working in the garden and around the house! Do you have a big garden? I have a great big perennial border, but I haven't gotten out there to do the first weeding yet. Now it is is kind of cold out, and it's been raining a lot, so it's too wet too. I wish we could grow rhodies here. They are one of my favorites! I'm a Survivor fan too! I made it through the jury's inquisition and then I was just too tired, and went to bed. So I still don't know who won. All I can say is that I don't think EITHER of them deserved it. I think Terry and Cirie were much better players. Oh well. It seems to happen fairly often that way. Where do you think they will go next?? I love checking out the locations and dreaming of visiting those places!

TTC - just wondering if you temp too? Or do you just use the monitor and check CM? Just wondering. I hope that the BDing is going well though! We've been missing you!

Girlie - I never had a beta done post-m/c. They did make me come in once to do a regular HPT (weird, huh?) which came back a faint pos. Then they made me promise I would do one at home the following week, which I did with FMU, and it came back negative. I got AF around the same time if I remember correctly.

Mickey - I'm getting really excited for you!! I'm very excited to be there for you during this 2WW!

So I have a confession to make. I've never been to Vegas! I know, isn't that sad?

In other news, we caved and told my BIL today (who told his wife). We kind of had to because he was making travel plans that would have been complicated by our and his wife's pregnancy. Anyway. I felt pretty good about finally saying it, but now all of a sudden DH is in no hurry to tell anyone else! For the last week he's been pushing to tell people and I've been wanting to wait until after our first appointment in 3 weeks, but now he's in no hurry! WTH?? Back and forth and back and forth! I don't know what to do about it anymore. I kind of feel like we should be on the same page on this one, and we keep flipflopping. It's awful! Sorry for the vent - it's really not such a big deal, just a little frustrating.

Anyway. I have to go finish making dinner.... hope you have all had a great Monday! It's our day off tomorrow - yay!
Victoria

[Gwensmom]

Hey ladies, hope the week started okay for you. It is going to be a late night for me...I accidentally got an iced regular coffee today at Starbucks instead of my usual decaf. I am so fidgity, totally feeling the effects of the caffine. I went off totally last summer when we were pg with Gwen, and just stayed off it. (I used to drink a lot of regular coffee!) It was so hard going off that I decided to just keep myself caffine-free. Oops, not today. Good thing I am reading a good book (John Grisham - love his books), so I will have something to do tonight!

Beth - I grew up actually in Forest Grove, Oregon (about 30 miles west of Portland). My parents are still there. My dh and I live down south in Eugene. We drive through Albany all the time when we are headed up to my folks. Our favorite restaurant is there actually, Novaks. It is this amazing Hungarian restaurant! Oh my, love it! A good friend of mine went to U of Portland...he is married to my best friend from high school. What year did you graduate? He graduated in 2000 (business major) I am pretty sure...Ryan Nelson, was on the golf team. It would be too small of a world if you knew him! Nice to hear you are a fellow dog lover! Don't know what I would do without our Bella these days. She has been so good for me while dealing with our losses. She truely is our child!!! My Dh and I will be tight with our budget when it comes to spending on ourselves...but anything that Bella may need (or we want for her) she gets! Spoiled little girl.

Victoria - My uncle lives in Brandon, VT...I visited him there one fall and oh my, what a beautiful place! I do love rhodies too...we have 6 of them. I am telling you, the lady who lived here before us really loved her plants. We also have 15 rose plants, they are just now starting to bud. I have never been into gardening...but now that I have my own yard, it is so much fun!! I love low growers a lot, ground covers and such. I just hope they hold up to our crazy Weim running all over the place!

Girlie - Yeah, it really stinks having to face people that don't know about the loss. My problem is that we didn't tell many people we were pg again...and now when I see friends and they ask how I am, I can't figure out if I tell them the truth, or let it go by? I usually can't keep the tears in, so I end up telling them. So now I wonder what is the point in not telling people, if I will just blab to them when something goes wrong anyhow. I just pray that nothing ever goes wrong again with future pg's. It is hard to believe that is possible right now though.

TTC - good to see you checking in. I have been thinking about you and wondering how you are doing. I hope your mood passes, and your spirits rise.

Mickey - Fascinating stuff that technology! The miracle of birth keeps getting more and more miraculous!! Thanks for sharing this process with us.

Amber - Hope you are feeling well and your anxieties are fading quickly!! Blessings.

It is SO hot here today. Some of you may not think this is hot (88 degrees), but for May in Oregon this is really hot! I am a sweater too (not the kind you wear, but the kind that gets your pits wet :D )...so this kind of heat just doesn't do well for me! Oh well...the sunshine is good for the soul.

[Gwensmom]

do you guys know how I would post a picture? I wanted to post a few of my Bella girl...my dog. :D She is my baby for now........

[lilliput]

Good morning everyone! Happy Tuesday!!

Becky - Hope you made it through the coffe buzz OK!! Brandon is really pretty. What a gorgeous part of the state! We live way, way up north, almost in Canada. It's like another world. Rose-growing is completely out of the question!! I'd love to do more low-growing plants too, just to help keep the weeds down. We have two dogs as well. Two labs, and they are the best. Two completely different personalities. One is a complete clown and the other is like a chess-player. Very introspective and she meditates a lot....I know that sounds wacky, but it's true. I feel like the one is a reincarnated frat boy, and our girl is a reincarnated chess player or some rocket scientist that is just really ticked off that she ended up a dog in her next life....LOL! They are the best though. I completely understand what you're talking about when telling people about how you're doing. I had the same thing, since we hadn't told anyone we were pg, and then we ended up telling everyone sad news instead. It is difficult. This time around DH had wanted to tell everyone right off because of that whole mess last time. We still haven't though....

I have to run - DH is chomping at the bit to go out for breakfast and get our day underway. Have to go buy more tile for our little bathroom renovation. Ugh. I've been feeling OK, a little icky, but nothing worth complaining about. Hope you all have a great day!!

Oh, Amber - where are you???

[AmberinGSO]

Good morning ladies! Wow! I have a lot to catch up on. Sorry I was missing for a bit. It's hard to find computer time when I am in a house with my mom, dad, DH, and two sisters! Right now they are all at work/school so I finally found some time to myself.

Girlie- How are you! When I got my last 0 reading my AF arrived about one week later. I bet you could expect her pretty soon since by now you are probably at or very near there. Sorry about your crazy exes. They must really think they missed out on you and your DH if they feel the need to compete with you like that. I have a similar story. I dated a guy for three years and we finally called it quits after he cheated on me one too many times. He now dates an 18 year old (He is 24 going on 25 soon) and as soon as she found out DH and I were engaged she began telling everyone they were engaged. I have seen her about and have yet to see a ring on her hand. I just find it amusing. That is terrible that she drank through her pregnancy! I saw a very pregnant woman smoking the other day and it makes me so mad.

Beth- I am glad you took some time off work! How is the bd fest going? I can't wait for your 2ww. I think you really will get your BFP this month since it sounds like you are timing bding perfectly. I've got my fingers crossed!

TTC- Glad to hear from you! I hope you get in better spirits soon. I will be thinking of you. By the way if you are down about the iffy ovulating thing go look at my chart under the charters thread. When I got my BFP my chart was everywhere up and down. FF didn't know what to make of it, but I just went with my body and what I thought. I got EWCM and I really thought it was ovulation despite some thoughts of an anovulatory cycle and I was right I did ovulate. Don't give up hope. Charting, monitors, cp, opks...they are not an exact science and are know match for your gut feeling. You know your body best!

Mickey- Wow! The miracles of science! That is really amazing. The things they can do to help us along these days! Sounds very promising. When is the transfer? I will be praying for you.

Victoria- I've never been to Vegas either! As a matter of fact I have never been West of Mississippi! Isn't that sad. I have been all over Europe, but have seen so little of my own country. We all need to go one day! Today is your day off, right? I hope you spend it relaxing. I worry about you working too hard. I'm glad you finally told your BIL. Maybe that will ease a little more of the workload. Sorry about DH flip flopping on the issue. It is a hard one to make though. I've really come to the decision that I don't want to tell EVERYONE. I mean I didn't tell the entire chemistry department like last time, but those closest to me know because if something happens I will need them to be there for me. However, I would like to spare myself the pain of my hair stylist, grocery store cashier, and third grade teacher asking me "how the baby is" five months from now if I have another m/c if you know what I mean. Are you getting a little more relaxed at all now? I'm feeling better a little better!

Becky- Wow! 88 is hot there? It gets well into the 90s here in North Carolina! 88 is still very warm to me though! I have a dog and I'm absolutely in love with him as well. Mine is a border collie named Baxter and he is a NUT! They really are the best when you are sad. Mine always knows when I'm feeling down in the dumps. A few weeks ago I was asleep on the couch and having a nightmare and I was crying my sleep and I woke up to his furry little head nudging me and him whining. I thought that was so sweet that he woke me up because he knew I was having a nightmare. By the way, all this gardening talk is making me so excited for our new house! Maybe soon I will have a contribution to the subject. I hope the caffeine didn't keep you up too late! Thought there is something relaxing about settling down with a good book in a quiet house and just reading for a while. I love to read. I haven't read many Grisham books. I like to read Stephen King and Nicolas Sparks. Oh and to get pictures posted I don't know how to post them so they show in a post I only know how to make them show as a link you can click on. I usually just upload the picture to a site like tinypic.com and then you put the link in your post! Let me know if that helps at all.

As for me...I have porn star breasts! DH doesn't know what to do with himself because I won't let him near them they are like two big bruises. DH has always liked a chesty girl (so I've gathered from running into a few of his exes) but I have never been very blessed. Now, I just feel ridiculous all the time! I have been trying to keep them strapped down in a sports bra. My first doctor appt. is on Thursday just for b/w and to meet with the nurse. I will let you know how it goes!
Have a great day ladies!

[MrsBritney]

Hi there ladies.
how are things with everyone today.
Looks like I have a lot to catch up on! this is not going to be easy!
Purple - Thanks for the explaination of the FET process.. I haven't been privy to any of that information... yet. So it was nice to learn a little bit about what you go thru in your TTC process. Since everyone has had a differenct experience.. you know? Sounds like things are getting down to the nitty gritty!! When they put you on BCP - they keep you on it for a month and then during the cycle they know when to implant? Or how does that work... if you dont mind talking a bit more about it!

Girlie - OH sweet lord.. the ex you were talking about is the one with the small penis.. well then you have nothing to be stressed about.. at least you are getting some nice lvuin.. right? And you dont have to worry about not feelin anything! HHAH That girl is just a sad sad woman.. and it doesn't matter what happens.. you will remain the good person that you are! and you will get your baby.. we all will.. as soon as the right time comes along! Since you took an HPT at it was a bfn, you should be getting AF really really soon.. but sometimes those last HCG levels can take a week or two to really bottom out.. so just hold on tight.. as soon as AF shows her ugly face, you can get down to business again!! WOO HOOOO!!

Lilli - That is weird that your DH doesn't want to tell anyone now.. you broke down and told BIL.. but now he wants to keep it on the down low.. what is up with that? I will never, for the life of me, understand how a mans mind works! You guys will figure it out.. but it is ok for him to be unsure.. and it is ok for him to change his mind.. just take your time and everyting will work out!

Gwensmom - I know where forest GRove is! HAHA.. and I definitely know where Eugene is.. my ex boyfriend (before DH) is from Springfield, so we used to spend a LOT of time down in the Eugene area.. drive is about 40-45 min from Albany.. oh yes.. I love good old Albany.. and I definitely know Novaks! My dad LOOOOOVES that restaurant.. I can't beleive that someone on these boards knows where I am from how cool is that?! Unfortunately I dont know your friend Ryan.. And I didn't know that the University of Portland had a golf team! Are you sure you are talking about my little tiny University of Portland.. or POrtland State University? :) But I graduated in 2002 and I have a degree in Biology.. so I wouldn't have known him anyhow! completely different circles!
And I am TOTALLY with you on the spoiling of the dogs thing.. we have two pugs.. and Bentley and Sofie have been my rock thru this whole thing (not including you guys) when I Would cry, Sofie would jump up and lick all of my tears away.. and Bentley would climb into my lap and just lay down and love on me.. it was the best feeling.. I never cried for long because they always made me smile.. and I would give my last dime to make them happy!! Unfortunately they are not going to be happy long.. the vet would like both of them to lose 2 lbs!! and they are not even fat.. he just thinks that if they got down to their smallest weight possible, while still being healthy, they would live at least 2 years longer.. so.. onto a diet they go! And by the way.. 88 is NOTHING.. it is over 100 now here! But I know what you mean.. 88 in Oregon is DEATH!!!! SO HUMID!

TTCinNC - Hey lady - how are things going with you... any updates?

Amber - Sorry that your boobies are so painful.. that can't be any fun at ALL!
I can't wait to hear all of about your first Doc appt.. when do you get your first u/s.. it seems like they keep us waiting for ever for that.. but the truth is.. we just need to be patient!!

As for me.. the bd fest is going ok.. yesterday we blew it tho.. :) We tried 3 times.. the first time - I can't figure out what happened, neither can DH.. I think it had to do with the fact that I was really tired, and just wanted to go to bed.. so we scratched that effort.. The second time (after my nap) for some reason, we both just started cracking up while in the middle of it.. and then couldn't stop laughing.. so that ended that try..
Then I went to work.. and when I got home.. we got down to business.. but after a half hour (and that fact that it was 11:30 and I had to get up at 4 am for work today) we were SOOOOO freakin exhausted that we just sorta fell over and decided to wait till today..
So.. hopefully today we can pick up where we left off!!
I am sure that was TMI for you guys.. but that is where we are..
I hope this is my cycle.. but if we can get our crap together, then it wont be! HAHA.. hopefully we dont break out laughing again.. we were just freakin laughing SOOOO HARD!! lol

OK.. got to get to work!
beth

[girliegirl]

Becky- I love to read too! I read like a maniac lately. I am reading "the girls" right now, which is a novel about conjoined twins and their life. Not true I don't think, but really good. I have not read John G. either. SOunds like you are getting back into a routine a little bit, that is half the battle!

Beth- I am starting to get a little jealous of all the action you are getting over there. My dh is soo tired all the time I am going to have to bust out the toys. I am so excited that you are almost to the 2ww!! That seems like a million yrs away for me.

Amber- I bet dh loves the porn boobs! That is what mine were like too! My dh loved it too! Glad you are doing so well. Its nice to see you relaz a little.

Victoria- enjoy your day off! They are tiling our bathrooms today too!!

TTC- where are you? Are you o.k.?

Mickey- I started thinking about the ? I asked you, I bet you don't have to O do you, because they already have your egg and they are putting it back in you. I think I get it now!! DUH!

The dr's office called me this morning wondering why I hadn't been back in. I told her "I wasn't into it". I was on my way out the door to go though, so she said they would call me with the results tommorrow. My luck it will have went from 20 to 18 or something. I feel a little cranky, so maybe af is on her way. I notice when I get pms, I feel like dh doesn't give me enough attention and that I never get enough sex. I am bummed today because I really wanted to be pg in the summer and now there is no way that will happen, unless its next summer. Just feel really cranky. Anyways, my "regular" girlfriends think its funny that I have a whole new set of girlfriends! I think they are a little jealous!! (not really) Wait til I tell them about the vegas trip!!

[MrsBritney]

Hey there girliegirl!
I can't believe you told the Dr.'s office that you "Weren't that into it" .. sounds a lot like a line from Sex and the City! "HE's just not that into you" ... you have balls! (so to speak)
Yea.. I am a bit weirded out myself about all of the sex I have been getting.. I dont know if it will be enough to fertilize a bean for myself.. but we will see.. and at least we are getting some good "us" time right now.. I think it has really been needed, ya know?
I ALSO love to read.. I am a FANATIC of Dean Koontz books.. but I love nicholas sparks.. james patterson.. I love the lady who wrote the princess diaries..
I just love to read books.. I miss my old Judy Blume days!
anyhow.. hope you are feeling a bit better about the HCG count.. dont feel too bad.. it took me 9 weeks to get down to "zero" (aka under 5) and then another week to get AF to show her face.. and then three weeks for all of the remaining tissue to be out of my system..
So.. life goes on.
As for the having new girlfriends online.. I think it is fantastic.. and wouldn't it be ever so awesome if we DID get to all meet in Vegas..
Of course, for the pregnant ones that wouldn't work.. but who knows.. it would be fun to have some sort of a meet up somewhere.. but I have to admit I am a bit biased with the vegas location.. it is only like $44 each way for me to get there and back!!!

However.. I do hope to meet you all some day!!

AMBER - WE NEED MORE WEDDING PICTURES.. post them at shutterfly or kodak or something and give us a slide show!!!

Hope you are all good!

Beth

[TTCinNC]

Hi, Everyone!

I'm checking in again, but not too much to report. The weather here is absolutely gorgeous, and that in itself makes me feel a little better. I really appreciate everyone's support - thanks!

How are our mommies to be doing? No serious m/s I hope! Amber porn star breasts - you could be doing worse lol. I wear 48DDD's so I just hope they don't get any bigger!! :eek: How in the world to bf? LOL. Can't wait to see what the dr.'s are saying come Thursday!

I'm just in a blue note, but it will pass. Amber you have good advice, which is what I have been thinking. I'm pretty sure I O'd when I should have. I think my monitor is confused with the really long cycle after my bfp and the fact that I didn't reset until a month after the m/c. So I'm trusting my body and if I didn't O - O well (bad joke lol) - I'll get back the drawing board next month.

Becky - I LOVE to read. Your post brought back some great memories. When I was younger I'd spend the day with my grandma and our routine was this:
I'd arrive just before breakfast in the morning. We'd sit and have a nice chat over eggs scrambled in bacon grease (yum lol). Then I'd leave and go to the central library, which was right across the street - heaven! I'd stay for a few hours and completely finish atleast one novel. Then head back for lunch and then a nap. When I woke up Grandma would be in the kitchen getting dinner ready and I'd pop open a one of the 8-10 books I'd checked out. We were so comfortable with each, we didn't talk a lot. I wish I had time to read like that again. After all this typing, I'm not sure if this memory is about my grandma, now passed, or reading lol. Either way, it was a pleasant retreat - thanks!!

Girlie - someone's wearing their ovaries on the outside - to quote Stewie Griffin! Way to go!! I know what you mean though. I never went back to get my levels checked after the first, as they were drastically lower and I didn't feel like going across town to bleed anymore for my RE. I just called when AF showed.

Lilli - how are things with you? Any symptoms? I know I've already asked, but in my old age, I'm not remembering things too well, lol. Ich bin shon dreisig Jahra alt! :rolleyes: hehehe! But when is your first appt.?

I can't wait to see you guys sono's!! You will post, right?

Beth - Hey lady! I have a question...do you know anything about D200 from Nikon? I've been eyeing it pretty hard, but the price tag is daunting. I'm really loving photography lately, and want to move up from my point and shoot Sony cyber shot. I seriously looked at the D70S, but figured I might as well buy something that I'm not going to need to upgrade with for a really long time. The D70s only produced pics with 6megapixels, while the D200 does 10megapixels. I'm looking at digital SLR's. Any advice would be appreciated.

Mickey - the wonders of modern science, huh! Can you imagine explaining the FET proceedure to someone, say, in the 1800s LOL! I wish you the best of luck and prayers for a BFP soon!

Well bette pretend to do work before I leave!!

[MrsBritney]

TTCinNC - Hey.. in reference to your photograhpy question.. the Nikon D200 is a FABULOUS instrument for photography. I haven't heard one bad word about it.. in fact, I would love to be able to afford a camera like that.. maybe that will be my next big purchase.. ya know?
I would say, freakin GO FOR IT and have fun with it.. and send me some rad photos after taking pics with it!! ok?
I love nature shots!!!!
So buy the camera... you wont have to upgrade for a while!

[purplerain]

Hi Girls!

How is everyone doing? How are the mommies in waiting?

TTC- I can relate on the feeling blue. All of a sudden, yesterday and today I just feel so blah...

Brit-Hope things are going well. Sounds like the BD is going well:D

Girlie- you are hilarious! I love the getting out the toys part! I know how that goes, when BD'ing becomes a chore due to ttc, its time to mix it up a little!

AMber, Lilli-How are you guys doing? When are your next doctors visits?

Becky-How are you?

Well girls, I am soooo depressed today. The RE called and said they moved my sono up to tomorrow. This where they map out the uterus, I hope there are no polyps. But I elected to not use bc for my frozen embryo transfer, which is what they prefer, however, it is dependant on my cycle. I have to start opk's on cd11 then call when I O. Then starting on cd25 I have to take some meds, and wait for stinkin' AF AGAIN. I call them again and then the count down begins for FET. My first cycle after the D&C was 8 weeks, my last cycle was 42 days. SO even though its getting closer to normal, (29-31 days) I am tired of waiting around!! Plus I am nervous about tomorrow, as I am hoping everything is clear. If it isn't I have to wait even longer and have surgery to remove whatever is in there.

I am just depressed with the whole process. I was watching tv yesterday and realized how much I want a baby. First steps and words, school plays, concerts, sporting events, graduations, weddings...all of which I feel like is so far away from me that I don't know if I will ever get there! I am just sad, all my friends are finally just getting married but it will be soon that they will all be popping out kids. I feel like my life is at a standstill and I am not moving. I feel stuck.

Sorry for the downer, but I feel like you guys are the ones that truely understand me when it comes to this whole process!

Mickey:(

[girliegirl]

Mickey- I know exactly how you feel, it just feels like its going to take forever to get a baby. Did you guys start this process with the fet because you had fertility issues? I don't know what to expect. we have our apt with the re on the 26th of May. who knows what the problem is him or me. Don't feel bad about feeling down, thats why were all here to cheer each other on. Just try to stay positive, you are on the right track, maybe this will be the month! I got my beta done today it is now 3. so I guess af should show up soon. yippee. Oh and about the toys I meant for ME! if he's not interested I guess I'll have to have some fun with myself!! ALso don't forget to add suspensions from school to your list of firsts with that precious baby!!!

I am babysitting right now, so I will check in with you later, I hope you are feeling more upbeat tommorrow.

[girliegirl]

P.s. why aren't they doing the fet this cycle?

[lilliput]

Just a quick check in with everyone! We had a nice day, too much time in the car, but it was still fun to see my MIL and SIL.

Amber - DH has calmly informed me that he will definitely let me know when my boobs are bigger, so no porn star here! Sounds like you've got a plan though packing them into a sports bra!

Mickey - sending you many, many positive thoughts and prayers for tomorrow that your u/s will come back crystal clear without a single sign of anything out of the ordinary!! You will get to experience all those things that parents experience, and that you'll have that bundle in your arms. Let us know how things go tomorrow, and we're all thinking of you!!

TTC - I don't know much about cameras, but I agree with Beth. But it. The best thing that DH and I did for ourselves after the m/c was to treat ourselves to things that seemed a little outrageous at the time, but they made us feel better and special. For us it was a vacation. I think Mickey took some spa time after her m/c. For you, it might be a brand spankin' new camera that opens up a whole new world of photography for you. I say treat yourself - you deserve it and have earned it!! BTW, I loved your story about you and your grandmother and all the reading you did!

I have to get going, so I apologize for not finishing all my personals tonight. I promise to check in with everyone again tomorrow, and I hope you're all well. Oh, and Beth, NO COPPING OUT OR GIGGLING TONIGHT. :D Hugs all around!

[seeking]

Hi girls,

I really hope you don't mind me dropping in like this but I just wanted to say a quick hi to Becky and how sorry I am for your saddness. Thinking of you. I had wondered where you were...now I know. Best of luck to you:) .

Mickey, I also wanted to say my heart broke when I read your post. I've felt that way many times. You have so much strength. Time will make sure it happens for you. I hope you feel better soon.

I'd also like to say what a great thread you girls have got going here. All the best to all of you, Michelle :D :D :D

[AmberinGSO]

Good morning ladies! I hope this is a good day for everyone.

TTC- "Ich bin schon dreizig Jahre alt." That is really good. I've been in the house with my dad and sisters for the past few days and the German is flying everywhere. And by the way my boobs are still just bumps compared to yours, but for a girl that was an A I'm feeling like Pamela Anderson right about now! I will definitely post the u/s pic for anyone who is interested!

Beth- I will get right on making that wedding slide show today. I have the professional ones from the chapel loaded up now so that shouldn't be too hard. I will post a link later on this afternoon. How did last night go? Did you finally finish the job?! I hope so!

Mickey- I am sorry you are feeling so down right now. Why are they waiting another cycle? I will pray that your u/s goes well and I am sure it will be fine and you will be on your way to making that little one you so deserve. It is really frustrating to not understand or be able to predict your whacked out cycles after a loss. Like you're not stressed out and sad enough already nature has to whack our cycles out too. My cycles did the same thing though so it's completely normal! I hear you about the tv commercials too! They can be brutal. I remember flipping the channel fleeing from them and thinking I was safe on MTV...no such luck! They are on there now too! My least favorite one is the one that goes "Having a baby changes everything.." Yea well not having one changes everything to a$$holes! I hope you start feeling better soon! You are on your way to that BFP.

Girlie- I hear ya about the toys! DH was out of town a lot last month. You gotta do what you gotta do! (We are the most scandalous thread)

Victoria- Glad you had a nice day off. You deserve it and need the rest for sure and just you wait the "porn star breast syndrome" is coming for you too! Just when you least expect it you will look in the mirror and be quite impressed with yourself. However, in my experience it also comes with lotsa pain so you may not want to do much, but look! How are you feeling?

Becky- Hope you have a great day!

As for me, I'm a little nervous about my appointment tomorrow. Did I type a little? I meant a lot...I guess I just have to put it in God's hands.
Have a great Wednesday ladies!

[TTCinNC]

Hi, Ladies!!

Well, everything on my front is still relatively calm. I have pretty much decided to just let this cycle pass by without much hoopla. Monitor still giving me high readings for the 9 day in the row. I've been POAS for 9 days! Maybe I O'd, maybe not. Sore yesterday, not sore now. I give up, LOL, what will be or has been is whatever it is hehehe. Like that made a lot sense :D

Beth - You're really getting me excited about the camera! I will have to wait until I get my annual bonus in July to get it. That will only pay for half of it, DH will have to fork over the rest lol. He works with a Hassleblad medium format. It's one of the older ones, but the pics are still impressive. You know, Wolf Camera was selling the D200 for about 2200 for the body only. I've found many dealers (reputable ones) that will sell a "kit" for that much, usually including 3, sometimes 4 lenses. The downside though, is that Nikkor lenses aren't top grade. What's your opinion on this? I was thinking I can get the body on eBay for 16-1700 and then buy just one really good multi-purpose lens maybe 20-80MM? This way I will definitely have a quality lens to go with such a nice camera. OR should I just go for the set and have a great selection, with lesser quality, and slowly replace them all with premium lenses and maybe sell the others back on eBay at a later date? Sorry to bog you down with all these questions. My DH shoots too, but he has a habit of trying to push me in a direction ONLY because he likes it and is biased lol. If you want to and have time, go to www.winkflash.com. Create an i.d if you don't have one, when you do there will be a tab that says "view friends". Click that and enter tljoseph as the user name and password for the first file with a flag is Alaska. The second flagged file's password is Mountains. - if you want.

Amber - God is with you and your bean. I pray His peace for you during your visit! Please let us now how it goes - I personally would love to see your sono pics! Ich habe mit meiner Pimsleur CDs studiert, und Es it sehr schwer! Sie spricht zu schnell für mich. Aber ich lerne langsam :p . Ich möchte gern Deutsch sprechen, lesen, und schreiben.

Lilli - you are right, we didn't even get each other Christmas presents this past holiday!! I think I've decided to get it, but it will in July. Ich muss diese Kamera für mein Urlaub nach Deutchland haben! How are feeling? You guys probably get tired of me asking everyday, so how are you feeling LOL. But I ask because I really care, so I hope you both don't mind me bugging you!

Mickey - I hope your blue note subsiding....I'm pulling out of my own funk. Not sure where it sprung up from, but I'm feeling more like me today. I hope the day find you the same! Thanks for trusting us to share your feelings, it means a lot!

Girlie/Becky - what are you ladies up to?

Hugs!

[MrsBritney]

Ok ladies - I had a big long post and I lost it..
So this is going to be shorter

Purple - I am sorry you are feeling so down right now.. it totally sucks.. But I have been there.. and I know how you feel.. maybe not with the exact same circumstances.. but I know all about the waiting game, and feeling like you are never going to "Get there" ya know? All I can say is that you will eventually get what you want.. I just know it! We all will.. unfortunately it sometimes takes a lot of patience.. but we are here for you.. whenever you need us! I am praying for everything to go as well as possible!! *hugs*

Lilli - Just a little FYI... we didn't do any "copping out" and I kept the giggling to a BARE minimum!! I promise.. It went smoothly.. but we are off one day.. I hope I didn't miss my window by screwing up Monday!!

Girlie - More power to you for getting some toys for yourself..
DH gave me a "gift card" to Castle Boutique (the big porn store here) and I still haven't used it.. how bad am I? That should be my main focus.. getting some when DH isn't interested!! Which, surprisingly, is about every other day.. except now he is really into TTC, so I am not having that much of an issue... hee hee

Amber - I am IMPATIENTLY awaiting your slide show.. I can't access it from work.. but I will access it at home, either tonite or tomorrow.. Tonite ALIAS and LOST are on, and I WONT miss those, especially after my heartbreaking realization that the Grey's Anatomy Finale Did not record on my VCR.. I dont know what I did .. but it didn't work! I was HEARTBROKEN LAST NIGHT.. so if any of you guys taped it.. PLEASE will you send me a copy of the tape? I will pay you!! I am also praying for you amber and that everything goes GREAT at the appt.. but it sounds like your body is doing a great job of preparing you.. and I think this one is going to stick!!

I am good.. still BDing every day.. but I am worried that I missed my window.. as I said above.. Who knows tho.. I think I am just going to not stress so much about it right now.. we will just have to wait and see what happens!!

HUGS TO ALL!

[MrsBritney]

TTCinNC - Sorry, I didn't see your post as I was posting at the same time!!

My suggestion - Get the body on Ebay - and buy a high quality lens!
What I did with my non digis was buy the camera, new with a lens already in the package, and then I added on a couple other lenses. First shooting with the original lens, to get to know the camera, and then as I learned how to use the camera better - I got a better lens! :)
I also have a set of close up lenses and some filters too.. but I dont have a really nice digital.. I have to wait till DH and I make some more money and stop fixing up the house all of the time!!

Anyhow.. let me know what you decide to do..
And if you ever want to trade up.. let me know and I will buy your old one from you!!
hee hee

beth

[purplerain]

Hi Ladies!

Thanks for all of your sweet replies! This is why I luv ya all! Well went to the RE's and had my sono mock, NO POLYPS!!! Yeah! So the FET process is a go and no surgery!

Thanks for the support! I feel much better today. Not feeling sorry for myself... as much!;)

Mickey

[girliegirl]

Great news Mickey!! I am so glad you are feeling better. You on are your way to a bfp!!

I got my beta back everyone, it was 3. so they consider that good enough. so I guess now its time to sit back and wait for af. can't wait to get that over with and feel normal again, although it sounds as if some of you were not regular for awhile.

Hope everyone is doing good, Did you see the nice compliment we got on what a great thread we have? I think so too. I think we have the best darn thread on the web!!

Amber- Have a great apt tommorrow,I am sure you will feel a ton better after tommorrow. Let us know. I want to see the us pics too!!!
,

[MrsBritney]

Mickey!! WOOOO HOOOOO ! NO POLYPS!!! I am so happy for you!!
That means we *when I say WE I mean YOU* are on TRACK for TTC!! That is amazing news.. and I KNEW that it would be true!! I prayed for you personally.. along with everyone else on this thread.. I am so happy!!
Soon you will be in baby land! YIPEE!!

Girlie - 3 is a GREAT number.. you should be seeing AF within the week!! At least that was my experience! They say that pregnancy changes the entire chemical make up of your body.. and it changes with every single pregnancy. So your cycles may be longer or shorter than before.. but now that you are almost to zero, you can count on seeing AF very soon!!
I DID see the compliment that we got! And I have to say that I think we are a great thread.. I love all of you gurls! :)

As for me.. I have been the worlds Biggest slacker!! I am so horrible now that I know we are getting laid off.. I can't believe that I just dont want to do anything.. but I am trying to change that!!

Beth

[lilliput]

Hey all!

YAY MICKEY!!! Oh, I am so excited and relieved for you!! What a huge relief! Now things can really get moving. Big hug and congratulations to you, and I hope that you and DH celebrate this little victory on the road back to getting your little bundle!

Beth - It sounds like you guys have been so busy, I can't imagine that you missed your window. I'm glad you giggled, b/c that means you were having fun! I have turned into a total slacker as well at work. It's awful, and I feel terribly guilty. I really should be working to help train our new person, but I am just not interested! It's almost harder to be at work now than it was when I felt completely overworked.

TTC - glad you are going to treat yourself, even if it doesn't happen until July. You'll definitely need a great camera for your trip to capture all those great spots you're going to visit. BTW, your last few German posts have been fantastic! You're definitely picking it up!

Amber - I'm glad I'm not alone on the "never been to Vegas" thing! I too have hardly seen any of this country. I have been to California, and to parts of the Southeast, but nothing in between here and there. And just like you, I've seen lots of Europe too. It's weird! DH and I have often talked about this, and have this crazy dream that when the "kids" are older, like eighth grade of something, we'd take them out of school for a year, buy an RV, and drive all over the place. Just for a year. And then it's be right back to regular school. Crazy, huh? I highly doubt we'll ever actually do it though. I am sure your appointment tomorrow will go really well. Be sure to let us know how it goes!

Girlie - how is the parade of homes coming along? Is your tiling done? I swear we have the world's SLOWEST tiler. Our bathroom is teeny-tiney (not more than 60 sq ft of tile for him to do) and he is still at it! 4 days later! I do like what we chose though, and I guess it doesn't matter too much, except for the final bill..... Glad to hear your levels have dropped so much, and I am sure AF will arrive in no time. My cycles are definitely different than before. First I was o'ing later and they were longer, and then the last couple, I o'd really early, and had much shorter cycles (well, I guess this one is still going :)), so don't be surprised if things are kind of wacky for a while.

Becky - So it's still raining here. I still haven't been in my garden. It is very depressing. How are your roses and rhodies??

As for me, I have been mega-bitch the past three days. SO GRUMPY! Mainly in the morning, and poor DH bears the brunt of it. I can't stand it. By the afternoon I feel more cheerful, probably in part b/c I'm home from work! :) Still no sore bbs, not icky feeling, marginally fatigued (or I'm getting used to it). I'm trying not to worry, since obviously there is nothing I can do about it, so I might as well just smile, right? Had some good tips that the best way to deal with my being super-bitch is to laugh about it. I'm going to give it a try, but gosh, it's hard to be silly and funny and happy when you are just about ready to tear DH's head off for nothing. Isn't that awful??

hugs all around, and glad to hear everyone is doing pretty well!
Victoria

[Gwensmom]

Oh my, you guys have been busy! Work has been really hectic for me this week, so I haven't had any breaks to get on here. I snuck off now to see how you ladies are, DH and FS are busy watching basketball! I will be so happy when the NBA playoffs are over....though then I am sure DH will be on to baseball. Oh my. Any of you have super sport-a-holics in your household? March Madness (college bball) is the worst here, but this NBA stuff is a close 2nd. While I was pg it didn't seem to bother me as much, especially since I was so tired in the evening I went to bed early and DH stayed up to watch his precious teams....but now, I can't sleep well, so I am left watching with him. Sometimes I curl up on the couch with my book, just to be in the room with him..........but that isn't so good :) What to do?? Hmm.

I had a physical today with my general practitioner who I hadn't seen since last October when I was pg with Gwen. I had to explain everything about my loss with her, and then this last pg. Tears started flowing of course, but at least she now knows what has been going on. I even showed her a picture I carry in my wallet of Gwen...that may have been a little much, but sometimes I can't help but share my little girl with people. I used to have it as my Avatar here, but was told it may be hard for other ladies to see, so I removed it. I figure a picture of my darling Bella girl (my dog) is safe though!

I have a question for you guys.......my ob never said anything about checking my beta numbers...but I see that you all had that checked often after your m/c. Should I request this? I don't want to risk infections or anything if I am retaining any tissue. I go for a follow up with my ob next Tuesday, so I can ask then. Also, what would be the best way to phrase the fact that I don't want to wait the 3 months to try again? I REALLY want her to give me the okay to start again soon...but I am nervous she will say no. Any advice on this?

Victoria - About the taking your kids out of school for a year and RV'ing it around the cournty.....I think that is a really great idea. My best friend's parents did that with her younger brothers (they are 10 & 11 years younger than her) last year, and they learned SO much more during that year than they ever would have in the classroom. If you can do it, I say go for it! My DH and I have thought about doing this too, but knowing us we would probably do a summer adventure. I just spent 2 hours weeding...where do those buggers come from??? My roses are just starting to bud, so exciting. It is our first Spring in the house, so I am thoroughly enjoying watching everything bud and bloom! My peonies are just about to bloom too! We have a terrible problem with slugs and snails though - Oregon is notorious for those stinkers! Ick.

Beth - It would be so hard for me to be motivated in my job knowing it was ending.......in fact, I was laid-off a few years ago, and my last few weeks were such a joke! The crazy thing was my job had me train the woman who was bumping down into my position! (It was a county job and she had more seniority than me, her job was eliminated so she bumped down into mine!) That was such a nightmare. I sympathize with the crappy situation you are in. Just keep thinking about your resume, and the much better job you are going to find yourself in soon!

Girlie - Yippee, your numbers are great! I hope AF visits soon so that you can get back in the saddle! (Hopefully I won't be too far behind you!)

Mickey - Congrats on your great visit to the doctor! I am so relieved for you and love the optimism in your post! How soon will the process get going?

Amber - I totally know the anxiety of that visit...try to relax and not think about all the things that can go wrong (cause none of them will!!!!)...but instead think of the little miracle that is growing inside you. I know it is hard to do....hang in there girl.

TTC - I hope you post the lovely pictures I know you will be taking once you get that fancy-shmancy camera! I don't know anything about cameras...but that one sounds amazing. My brother is a huge camera expert, I can't wait for the day he takes pics of his nieces and nephews! He took all of our pictures of Gwen, and those are my most priceless pictures!

Okay, better rejoin the family. Blessings to you all!

Becky

[Gwensmom]

Beth - I forgot to say how crazy it was to read that your dad loves NOVAKS! I told my DH and he said that was a sign that we need to go there! He always gets the shephards combo, I love the cabbage rolls myself! Oh, and the desserts there are so amazing. I LOVE the lemon creme crepes. Oh yum.

[lilliput]

Just want to check in quickly. Have to get moving at work so that I can leave work and go home!!

Becky - I never had betas done either after my m/c. They just made me take a bunch of HPTs until they were negative, and if they were still positive, they would have checked for retained tissue. Not sure if the protocols are different for a natural m/c instead of a D&C, but that might have something to do with it. I still can't get into my lousy garden!! It is supposed to keep raining until Tuesday and you know the minute the sun comes out, every single weed and its evil uncle will grow! As for your slug and snail problem did you know that slugs really like beer? Apparently if you put a shallow dish of beer in the garden they will crawl into it and drown. Wasn't sure if you wanted to give that a try, since I know they are pretty darn gross. Our peonies are a LONG way from even being close to popping! They are DH's favorite flower, and I love them too. As for the sports thing, fortunately DH is not a huge fan. Stanley Cup hockey we watch a little of, and also when the FIFA World Cup comes around (like this summer) we enjoy that as well. But personally I can't stand basketball (especially the pros) and loathe baseball even more. We try to watch some football too.

Anyway, I have to run. New employee needs hand-holding, and no one else seems to want to deel with it today. Hope you have a great day, and will try to check in again later today!! Hugs all around!
Victoria

[MrsBritney]

Hello ladies! :)

Lilli - Hey there! Yea, I can't help but giggle sometimes when DH and I are BDing.. we both did it again last night.. when we got home from work.. I tried REALLY hard not to laugh.. but then he would look at me and we would both start cracking up.. so we had to give it another go right before bedtime.. and that time it worked just fine! HAHA..
I hope I dont miss my window.. but who knows.. I am just trying to BD as much as possible.. :)
That is funny that you have been mega bitch! I hate it when I KNOW I am being a bitch, but I really can't do anything about it.. doesn't that suck.. at least you DH is being nice about it.. that is always a good thing!

As for me.. We are just BDing like mad... hoping that this is our month.. but you never know what God has in store for us!! Right?
During our BD process last night, the one where I was laughing.. he was like "I like to enjoy my sex" and I said "well, could you enjoy it a little bit faster, dinner is almost ready" HAHA.. we totally cracked up.. and so we gave up that session.. We are such dorks..

LOST was SOOOO Freakin good last night.. did anyone watch it?
TOTALLY predictable.. but very good.. and ALIAS just ROCKED THE HOUSE!!!
Anyhow.. lots to do today.. so I guess I need to go sit around and do nothing some more! HAH

beth

Gwensmom - I really think the whole beta's thing is different for each doctor..
My doctor likes to make sure that everyone is going down to zero properly. and yes, you can do that with HPT's until they turn negative.. but as for me.. it was cheaper to have insurance pay for the lab work.. because labs are free for me.. so I just went in once a week to have blood drawn.. my problem was that it took SO long for the HCG levels to go down.. I was at 67,000 when I was told I was miscarrying.. wow.. huh? A LOT! So I was glad that the doctors followed me all of the way down.. then I knew when I should be expecting AF to get here...
Yea! My dad and his wife go to Novaks like once a month, they LOVE it there.. I dont know what my dads favorite items are.. but they always talk about it.. and my older sister loves that place too.. in fact, I went to high school with Mr. Novaks son (or grandson, I can't remember) his name was Lazlo.. and he was very sweet.. he was in many of my classes ! What a small world, eh?
I am having a hard time being motivated to do my job here.. and what is funny is, all of the managers had an offsite last week, and I found an agenda on one of the desks near me this morning.. and the last thing on their agenda was "motivation" .. they are trying to think of ways to keep us motivated to do our jobs until our lay off date! Isn't that funny? They can already see the slacking off!! weird...

[AmberinGSO]

This might be needlessly long. Bear with me or skip it entirely.
Ok I officially had my first crazy pregnant lady break down this morning. A little background...DH graduated college in December, a semester before me, and took a job in law enforcement in the town we plan on living (my hometown) when I finished school. So, I have been living alone in the city where I attend school which is about an hour and a half away from DH and my family. Shortly after DH took the job our second car broke down for good, but we figured since I can walk to school we would just wait until I finished school to purchase a new one. So, I have spent the last four months of my life isolated a lot of time (DH came home on weekends) and with no car. Well, DH works night shift and I HATE IT! I hate it more than anything in the entire world. When he is not at work he is sleeping and gets up just in time to go to work and when he has a day off he maintains the same sleeping schedule so he doesn't "throw his system off." This means that he gets up at 6pm everyday and since I go to bed due to first trimester exhaustion at 9 I barely see DH. Lately I have been feeling sad about this a lot probably increased by my seriously whacked out hormones. Well, DH gets home at 7:15 am and my appt. this morning was at 9am so before he left I said to him "Don't forget about my doctor appointment it is at 9am. That shouldn't be a problem for me using the car." So, last night I could not sleep. I laid awake all night miserable with worry about this appointment. I mean miserable. I finally gave up trying to sleep at 5:30 and got up and go ready. I got so dressed up. I even put on make up and rolled my hair (I am known for being the plainest jane there is) Well, to make a long story short DH got "held over" at work and didn't arrive home until 9:45am. I had to reschedule the appt. and they couldn't even fit me in until monday at 11! When he got home he didn't even act like it was a big deal! I mean I was bawling! Sobbing hard! He didn't even call and I was beginning to think he might have been in an accident. I was online checking the traffic report when he pulled in the driveway! Now I've just been hysterical all morning...
Sorry that was the longest rant ever ladies...I am just emotional and sad about DHs work schedule and so bummed that I now have to wait until monday to find out about my little bean.

I will write personals later on this afternoon...I just feel blah right now

[MrsBritney]

Oh Amber!!
I am so sorry..
That is totally disrespectful for him not even to CALL you.. KNOWING that you are pregnant.. and especially after you REMINDED him that you had a Dr. appt today and he KNOWS that you were eagerly awaiting this Dr. appt due to the amount of stress and worry this pregnancy has you under..
I am so sorry that he did that..
Did he even apologize after seeing that you were crying and everything? And do you guys have cell phones? If not, I STRONGLY suggest that he have a Cell phone with him at all times in case you need to contact him for any reason regarding the pregnancy..
Sometimes I can't believe how much our DH's dont understand us...

*HUGS*

[sweetbabydreams]

Hi everyone, I've been told this is a great thread for those who are going through m/c -- I just found out that my baby is not developing (I'm 7 weeks pg) and that I have to have a D&C. I'm very scared about it. My doctor wants to do it tomorrow since I have to leave for my sister's wedding next week. But it just seems so sudden. Yesterday I was happily (if nervously) pregnant, and now this. It's just so much to take in, and I keep bursting into tears every other minute. Am I doing the right thing, or should I wait to m/c naturally?? I'm also nervous about being so far from home (my sister lives in Alaska) if I started to m/c there. Not to mention that I don't want to ruin her wedding. I'm just so heartbroken and crushed. And scared. Is the D&C really horrible? I feel like I'm in some kind of terrible nightmare and I can't wake up.

Sorry for rambling, and thanks for letting me vent.

Jennifer

[lilliput]

Oh Amber, I am sorry DH caused you guys to need to reschedule that first appointment, and got you so upset!! He definitely should have called! Beth is right, do you guys have cell phones? We don't have them up here (no coverage), but I'll tell you what, if we could right now, I would definitely want one. I hope DH knows how important this appointment was for you, and that he makes up for it in whatever way possible. Big hug to you, and I hope you help DH understand how important these appointments are for your peace of mind. Try to take it easy the next few days since you've been pretty upset today, and your appointment will come around in no time. I don't know what to tell you about your DH's schedule - have you talked about him about possibly having it changed the farther along you get in your pg? Especially when you head into your last trimester?

On the hormonal and megabitch subject (no Amber, you're not a mega bitch, that's me!). So DH and I talked (and laughed) about this matter last night. It made me feel lots better. He also says he can totally tell I am pg, that I am acting completely differently, or my moods are totally different, not necessarily grumpy, just different than usual. So that made me feel better, since in the last few days I haven't felt all that pg except for being a little tired and bloated, and of course megabitch. I'm glad that we are able to laugh about it. And Beth, you are absolutely right - I can't stand it when I feel myself being bitchy, and then I get so angry with myself for being that way, that I get even bitchier! It's ridiculous, and so not the way I want to be as a person! My sister was right, she always said I would be a monster when I got pg b/c I was a moody teenager (who isn't?)

Anyway, hope everyone else is OK today. I need to fold some laundry and make some dinner (yes I'm home :)). Long day at work tomorrow, but I plan to leave by mid-afternoon. Still 10 hours, but heck it'll go fast. Hugs all around!
Victoria

[girliegirl]

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF when I write everyone a nice LONG personal and it gets lost. here we go again.

Amber- That really sucks about dh flaking out. I am so sorry I know you were so looking forward to that apt. He has no clue either, they dont get it. You know how I was dying to get to our Re apt next week and get his s/a results? Well he told me last night that he is too busy getting ready for the parade of homes and to change the apt. I was like are you kidding me, it will take 3 mos to get another apt. so anyways I guess I am going without him and I am sure they will not give me the s/a results until he goes wjhich is not unitl the end of june.

[lilliput]

Jennifer - We must have been posting at the same time. I offered some thoughts on your situation on the other thread, but in case you aren't going back there, I can mention them again here. First off, I am so, so sorry you are going through this. I know you were really worried about the appointment today, and I was really saddened to see your post on the other thread. You have come to the right place for support though....
My feeling is to go ahead with the D&C, especially since you have a big family event coming up next week that will require you to be away from home and far from your doctor. While I m/c'ed naturally, and am OK with that (as much as one can be), I think if I were in your specific situation I would proceed with the D&C. Many of the other women on this thread have had D&Cs, so they would be better able to tell you about that experience than myself.
No matter what you choose to do though, it is an emotional rollercoaster, and it's important to take the time for yourself, and to be with your DH. You're both experiencing a difficult loss, and you'll need each other. You may find that sometimes you need to be alone for a bit, or you may find that other times you will need to be closer to your DH. Just be sure to listen to what you're feeling, and allow yourself to feel it. Don't suppress it. And remember we're here for you too! BIG HUG to you, and I'll be thinking of you and praying for you and DH in the coming days and weeks.

[girliegirl]

TTC- Hows it goin? did you get that camera? I think your fertility monitor said that it was peak day to spend some money!!

Victoria- how are you feeling? still crabby? I bet you feel cranky becasue you are stressed, both about work and the baby. How many wks are you now? 5? YOu probably wont get alot of symotoms for a few wks yet.

Beth- I am sure motivation is a problem for you guys. please, how hard would anyone work when they know they are going no where??? I think you should tell you boss tommorrow, as you are filing your nails, that you just aren't that into it today.

[girliegirl]

Becky- I know what you mean about dh and the sports channel! I like it though, he watches sports and I read. Then I don't feel guilty for ignoring him! ABout your beta, it is a pain in the ass to keep going in, and I got a bill the other day its like $120 everytime. I don't know how much my insurance will pay, but geez. plus its just a reminder each week. but it nice to know that I am so low now and can expect af soon. I wish it would just get here. As far as ttc, I would say when you get your first period go for it. Do they have any ideas as to why you m/c either time?

[lilliput]

Girlie - LOL! Gosh, I'd love to tell my boss (DH) the same thing one day! "So sorry hun, but I'm just not that into it today. I think I'll go get a massage instead." I think he'd just about die. I mean I tell him that when I'm home, but not when I'm at work.... :)

[girliegirl]

Jennifer, I am soo sorry for you this is terrible enough to go through and the timing is even worse. I would normally say let your body do it naturally, but maybe you should have the d & C because of the wedding. How far along are you? I don't know what a natural m/c would be like if you were say 5 or 6 wks, maybe just like a heavy period? when do you have to leave to go? maybe wait and day or 2 and see what happens. This is awful I am so sorry for you, we are all here to help you through this.

[girliegirl]

DO IT victoria! Tommorrow, I triple dare you to say " I don't know, I'm just not that into cheese today."!!!

[girliegirl]

Beth, how's all the giggling, I mean bding going??!! I finally got some the other morning. I am sure he thinks he's off the hook for a few days! You have to have hit the majic day. Did you guys have any trouble conceiving the first time?

[girliegirl]

Oh, victoria, about your tile guy. We are have 4 bathrooms done and the master is huge and the guy will have the whole house done in a week! Want me to send him your way and help your guy finish up??

[Gwensmom]

Hi ladies. FS will be home any minute, but just wanted to check in and say hello.

Jennifer- I am so very sorry for your loss. I was told similar news just over 2 weeks ago, and I still feel like it is a bad dream I need to wake up from. About the D & C - I don't have any advice for that...I was going to have one, but m/c naturally prior to the appointment. I will tell you that when I m/c naturally it was very tramatic and there was so much blood and tissue to pass....I would have hated to have it happen far from home....so if you will be going out of state, I would say have the D & C so you aren't left questioning when it will happen. Again, I am so very sorry for your profound loss. Peace to you.

I better get out and meet FS's bus. Blessings ladies!

[MrsBritney]

Good morning everyone! Happy Friday to you!

Sweetbabydreams - i am so very sorry for your loss... no one can truely understand a loss like that unless they have gone through it themselves.. I agree that you should get your D&C out of the way as soon as possible... believe me, nothing is worse than carrying around your unborn child, knowing that it is no longer growing inside of you.. I did it for a week, and it was one miserable week... Plus, the sooner you have the D&C, the sooner you can begin healing.. not only physically, but emotionally. This group of girls really has helped me come full circle in dealing with my pain and sorrow.. and I think that you will find all of us understanding and willing to listen..
I had a D&C at 10 weeks after finding out at 9 weeks that my baby had stopped developing at 5 weeks.. it was very hard, but after the D&c is when I finally started coming to terms with what happened.. So just let us know if you need anything!! *hugs*

Lilli - doesn't it TOTALLY suck when you KNOW you are being a bitch.. it just makes EVERYTHING worse.. which sucks.. and it sucks even MORE when someone TELLS You you are being a bitch..
My friend kept telling me that I changed when I was pregnant.. but I honestly didn't think that I did.. I asked several of my other friends and they said that the only difference was that I Was more emotional.. I got upset at things I usually didnt get upset with.. so I guess my friend was right.. she was just the only one brave enough to tell me!! :) HAH

Girlie - Yea, I really have told my boss that I am just not that into it.. yesterday we had the project manager telling us (me and my co worker) that we had to get stuff done.. and I was like.. DUde that ISNT my job.. I have other things to get done.. so I sat there argueing with him for like 15 minutes until he asked nicely. :) hee hee I am SO Bad!!! and then.. my co-worker and I LEFT EARLY!! WOO HOOO!
WE have been bding a lot.. the trouble is.. I haven't seen and EWCM yet.. and while we are trying to BD Every other day, our work schedules sometimes get in the way of that.. and even last night, we were just too damn tired to do anything.. and we can't do it today because he is at work when I get home.. and then I leave for my second job before he gets home.. and I dont get home till he is asleep.. Maybe I can wake him up when I get home tho.. that would be nice.. huh?
I honestly dont think this is our month.. so I am not really counting on it..
Maybe next month..

Hi there to everyone else today..
Like I said above, I just dont think this is our month.. It didn't take much to conceive the first time. .but we all know that just because it happened once, it doesn't mean it will happen in the same way again.. right? So.. I am not really counting my chickens.. I am still two days away from my Oing date from last month.. I o'd on 18 last month.. so we will try and "hit it" either tonite or early tomorrow morning.. then DH is driving back to "hit it" again on Sunday (he is watching his moms house this weekend) and then hopefully we can take a much needed BD break!!
Sometimes that much sex can get tedious.. I need to try something new I think, any one have any ideas?

Beth ;)

[girliegirl]

Beth, why don't you try some robitussin for the next few days and see if the ewcm picks up. You should do it 5 days prior to O, but when I took it I noticed a big difference that day. I think you take 1 or 2 tbs 3 times a day. you can look it up online. I don't think its too late to start that and I know thats how I got my bfp, it made such a huge difference.

[MrsBritney]

Hey girlie!
I am definitely going to try some robitussin... I have some already.. and I will take it when I get home from work today.. and then right before I leave for my second job.. and then I will come home.. take some more. .and wake up DH to see if we can get the action going again..
Then.. I will try to hit it one more time in the morning.. :)
How does that sound?
I dont know if I have missed my window or not.. but I haven't felt any O pains.. at least not that I can remember.. Maybe my cycle is just going to be longer this time!! Man.. I KNEW I shouldn't have started Actively TTC.. it is driving me NUTS! :) HAHAH

[girliegirl]

I think you still haven't O yet, but cm should be picking up, thats why I thought you should try the robitussin. I have a friend who just started ttc and I have been trying to get her to check that and cp. she can't find her cervix, I told her today I am about to come over and find the damn thing for her!!! Are you motivated today??

[TTCinNC]

Hey Ladies!

Sweet - I'm very sorry for your pain and loss. I read your post on the other thread and I felt heartbroken for you. Even more so because you had to make such a tough decision. I'm sure it doesn't feel like it now, but you will eventually have your little angel. Even now, I feel weird saying "when I was pregnant" because it happens so quickly. But I know I had a little bean for just a short while. Amazing the impact it has on your life and perspective. But we're all here for you, welcome to the thread.

Beth - drink lots and lots of water. It won't help with this cycle, but it will help for next. You may consider taking EPO. My acupuncturist recommends it for lack of CM. Don't abandon ship yet. When we did get our bfp, we had only bd'd on one day and late at that!

Mickey - I'm glad that you were polyp/cyst free and that your FET cycle is charging straight ahead! Hopefully, you will get that BFP really soon, how are you feeling?

Girlie - My FM is still trying to tell me that I've now been highly fertile for 11 days lol. I used my last test strip, so I'm just waiting on AF so I can start anew. The camera would be a great pick me up though lol. BTW, my clinic gave me my DH's results without a problem. So hopefully you will know something.

Amber and Lilli - how are the new mommies doing? Sorry to hear about the problems with DH. He may seem like an insensitive numbskull, but he's probably not yet let is sunk it that you are pregnant! Be honest and communicate, but don't think you are being overly sensitive. Keep us posted on your results Monday.

Becky - I'm glad you and dh are ready to get back to ttc'ing. I've found it more healing to be actively trying than taking time off. Everyone handles it differently, but I hope we will soon be celebrating your next bfp!

Nothing much happening here. Just working under the assumption that I O'd. Next month, though, I'm going to try charting. My ACP said it would be helpful for her information as well!

[MrsBritney]

Girlie - Yea, I tried the whole "cervix" feeling thing, but I got grossed out having my own finger up there.. (sorry ladies.. tmi I know! haha) and I just couldn't do it.. plus, I wasn't really sure what was feeling for.. and I dont know what I SHOULD Be looking for.. you know what I mean? Fertility friend has me "O"ing a few days ago.. but I dont think that I was.. I think I will in the next couple days.. but who knows.. I am not giving up.. I just almost wish that I hadn't started to actively try.. it seems a lot harder when you do.

TTCinNC - yea, I am not totally abandoning ship yet.. but I am not feeling it right now.. plus, I am just so tired.. I haven't had a good nights sleep in a long time.. and I am just so glad that I took Saturday off of my second job to relax a bit this weekend..
And DH will be gone too.. so that is kinda of a bummer.. but good for the relaxing! OF course I did tell him that we have to meet up on Sunday for a littie BDing.. so we are planning on that right now.. but other than that.. who knows! Right? I am making sure to drink LOTS of water.. but that is also making it so that I can't follow my OPK's because the water is diluting my urine.. so it doesn't test right.. So I have basically wasted a months worth of OPKS.. I am so messed up.. aren't i?!
HAH..

Went to the bar last night and had a couple drinks with a coworker and DH.. we had some fun lookin at the hot ladies that work there.. DH and my coworker were laughing because I Was staring as much as they were!! HAH.. Hey.. when the ladies are pretty.. it is hard not to stare!!! Especially when they have corsets on and have their huge heaving breasts shoved into my facE!!!

Beth

[lilliput]

Hey guys! Long hell day is over finally. It went pretty well though, all things considered.

Jennifer - Thinking of you and sending you a big hug!

Beth - I wouldn't write off this cycle yet! Don't forget that the cycle right after my m/c, I o'ed really late (CD17). Then the third one (I think), wham, surprise o on CD12 (at least I think so, but FF doesn't b/c of a CM issue). This last cycle, I got completely taken by surprise and got that raging OPK on CD10! And about the CM, I never saw any EWCM, and only minimal watery CM. Never felt any o pains either, and my temp didn't go sky rocketing right away. And now here I am! So, you never know, FF might be right, and you might have o'ed already. I would BD again just to cover your bases. We did too on CD15 I think, but I had a feeling that I had already o'ed so I didn't pursue it that much....Just thought I'd let you know how out of whack my cycle has been since the m/c.

Girlie - oh, I wish we could have your tiler. I think he is almost done. Waiting for the grout to dry so he can seal it, and then hopefully he is going to get the heck out of here!

TTC - how weird that you are still getting a high reading! That is very frustrating. I hope that if this cycle isn't the one (and hey, you never know), I'm hoping the next one is the one!

Amber - How are you doing today? Did you have a good long talk with DH to try to work something out and help him understand how you are feeling? Your appointment is on Monday right? Rest easy, and Monday will come in no time, and everything will be just great.

As for me, same old same old. A little icky feeling today, and I got crampy half way through the day. I think I was just over doing it and got a little dehydrated. I took a quick break and drank a bunch of water and that helped out with the cramping. I can't believe how thirsty I am all the time. It's ridiculous! I never drank enough water before, but always seemed to get by, but now I just feel parched and all I can think about is a nice cold glass of water.

Hope you all are doing OK. It's raining buckets today. Ick. It hasn't been sunny here in over a week. Ick.

[lilliput]

Beth - in case you want to check out my charts to compare and see my o date move around, they are in the Pregnancy 101 Forum, on the "Calling all Charter's Charts" thread (it's a sticky), under graduates.

[MrsBritney]

Lilli - Thanks for the info..I was wondering about my o date moving around.. it would suck if I did 0 on the 12th because that was around that day where we missed bding due to the giggle fest.. but I am noticing that my own chart is a bit different this time too.. but not by much yet.. give me a couple more days and we will see what happens..
I have to get to work so I can't check out your charts right yet, but I will do it either when I get home tonite.. or tomorrow morning/afternoon when I wake up (yes, I took the day off of work)..
I am trying not to write off this cycle yet.. because things are weirder than ususal.. but I am not seeing what I saw last time.. but maybe that doesn't matter much.. huh? It sounds like you were seeing last time, what I am seeing now.. so who knows.. maybe it is my lucky month! :) wouldn't that be great!
OK.. I HAVE to get to work..
Talk to you all tomorrow!

[MrsBritney]

OK.. I had the ovulation dip this morning.. and when I woke up I had EWCM.. not a lot.. but it was there.. and I saw it.. so it looks like I was just getting impatient.. and it looks like I ovulated today .. right about the same time I did last cycle!! Day 17!! What is up with that!
So.. DH just got off work.. and we did the deed..
:)
Dont know if we will get it this cycle.. but it was nice to know that I am still "normal" with my cycle and all.. too bad I was just getting so damned impatient!!
Anyhow.. just wanted to update you all!!

Beth

[girliegirl]

Beth- Yay! lets here it for ewcm!! Are you still taking the robitussin? You are going to be exhausted from all of the bding you have been doing this month! Drink lots of water, and I hear something about baby carrots. I will be keeping me fingers and toes crossed for you! When can we officially begin over analyzing the 2ww?? I am ready for a 2ww! Still no af for me. where the heck is it?? I am ready, bring it on.

[lilliput]

Beth - sounds great!! :D:D How comforting that your cycle is normal!! I can't tell you what a relief that is. I was so freaked out when I ovulated early - I had all kinds of horrible thoughts. Are you going to seal the deal one more time, just to be on the safe side??

Becky- If you can believe it, it's still raining here. 11 days later. I still haven't gotten into my garden!! Did you try the beer for your slugs?

Amber - How did things go with DH? We haven't heard from you in a bit. Hope everything is OK with you, and that you're just busy hanging out with family and enjoying the spring time!

Girlie - Did you ever get the results of DH's s/a? Just curious. Don't know what to tell you about AF. I'm sure she'll breeze into town in no time. Do you think you'll start trying right away?

As for me, just chuggin' along. I get pretty tired in the afternoon, but am still holding my own at work. sort of. I can't put in quite as many hours as before. Well, I could, they just wouldn't be very productive.... I don't get to the doctor for almost another 2 weeks. But I am feeling pretty comfortable about things. Every now and then I have a panic, but for the most part, I am feeling OK. My biggest fear right now is: "Holy sh*t! This is crazy! Am I going to be able to do this??!! What the heck was I thinking??" All very hormonal thoughts, I am sure, but still scary nonetheless.... Anyway, hope you all had a great weekend!

[AmberinGSO]

Hello ladies! I have missed you guys. Being at my parents keeps me constantly busy. I haven't had any time to check in over the weekend.

Jennifer- I am late on answering you. I'm sorry to hear about your loss. You have probably at this point already made a decision regarding your D&C, but my advice would be to go ahead and have one not only because of the timing, but because I feel it is so much less traumatic. You go in for one day and you leave and there is little bleeding afterwards for most. This is much better in my opinion than bleeding for days or even weeks with that being a constant reminder of your loss. I hope you made the right decision for you as I know that is a very personal one to make. Please stick around here. The support these women have to offer is phenomenal and we have all been where you are right now. I lost my first baby at what would have been nine weeks and I had a D&C. Feel free to vent and ask any questions you may have. I will pray for your heart to heal soon.

Beth- I'm so excited that you ovulated finally! Yay! 2ww here you come. How exciting! I hope very soon we will be celebrating another little life! Did you have well timed bding? Do you feel at all like this is your month? Good luck! I am rooting for you!

Girlie-I'm going to do an AF dance for you! I think she will definitely be here soon since your levels are down! You are just a bit away from trying again!

TTC- Good luck with the charting next month. I hope you don't have to though because I hope you get a BFP this cycle! But if you do be careful. Charting can take over your life if you are a crazy woman like me!

Victoria- Hormonal thoughts rule my life! DH wants to know where his wife went! I am starting to relax more about the whole m/c thing though. That is greatly helped by the not so much m/s (I'm not throwing up) but the all day feeling of icky. I haven't been able to eat meat in three days! I thought I would die when my mom made sausage this morning. Glad to hear you are not working too hard. That wait to your doctor's appt. will crawl, but I think we will be okay this time. Once we see our beans it will be smooth sailing....right?! (just agree) Lately my mom thinks it is fun to show me pictures of my cousins when they were pregnant and her and my aunt. I'm starting to think GEEZ! Can I/Will I really get that big? Is that possible? That is just one of my "freak out thoughts" I will spare you the rest for now!

Becky and Mickey- How are you guys?

As for DH and I, I forgave him and chalked it up to just one of those male things. Sometimes they just have no clue! My appointment is tomorrow and I am going to BEG for atleast a scan to hear the heartbeat. We will see what happens. I will let you guys know!
Hugs to all!

[girliegirl]

Amber- great to hear from you again! Can't wait to hear about your apt! And yes you will get that big! Its crazy how big you get, I loved it! Let us know right away about your apt!

Victoria- We had all that rain here in Mi. too. Now its sunny but very cold. I am sure you will get that weather next. they say this weekend close to 80. I hope so, I hate being cold. Glad to hear you are relaxing a bit now. 2 weeks will go by fast really. I can't belive its only 2 wks away. seemed so far away before.

Beth when do we start the 2ww??

Well, guess who is here for a visit?? AF. can you believe it. this morning I have a little pink spotting and the cramps are starting up. Yes I will be ttc this month. at the age of 39 I have no time to waste. I am not going to tell dh when I O though, he doesn't like the pressure, so I have to be creative and sneaky!! one of my best friends just started ttc and she got af yesterday, so it would be fun if we get pg the same month and have the same due date! Well the next 2 wks will be very busy. the parade of homes starts june 3 and we have to finish up and condo model home, our house and then just clean the model home that is done. Our house isn't even painted yet and the condo is a ways off too, but dh will pull it off. in 2 wks those will be furnished and looking ready to move into!

HOw do I attach pics? i went to tiny pic, then what do i do? after I save them how do i get them here?

[MrsBritney]

Hi there ladies.
Just time for a quick update.

DH was gone all weekend, and lo and behold - my temps have been down since he left.
I think my body is pulling an "Amber".. apparently when DH is not home, my temps dip! he will be back tonite, so we will see where it goes from here.
I am tired today, I couldn't sleep so I took a tylenol PM last night after Desperate Housewives finale - and I overslept ! Forgot to set the alarm.. I am a dufus!

I dont know if I am in the 2ww or not especially since my temps are weird.. and I only had EWCM for like 12 hours...
I honestly dont think that this is our month.. but I thought the same thing last time I got pregnant.. so one never knows! I figure whatever happens, happens.. but I think actively TTC is really stressful on DH.. He doesn't like HAVING to BD.. he likes to do it because he wants to.. so we might spend next month NOT telling him when we want to BD.. we will see.
ok.. sorry no personals.. I have things to do!
Beth

[TTCinNC]

Hi, Ladies!

I hope everyone had a terrific weekend. I had a good time, ate to much. Picking up South beach phase one again starting today. So I took the weekend and ate whatever I wanted! Went to see the DaVinci code...

I'm four days from AF, but not really feeling anything. My nips are a bit tender, not much and everything gives me gas. Outside of that, nothing - but I don't think this is our month either. I don't have any more test sticks for my FM, but it is still asking for them on CD 25 lol. If we're not, I'll just take a little more time to get my body prepared.

Girlie - yeh!! AF is here, that is terrific! How long are your cycles? That would be too cool, if you and your friend could experience your pregnancies together.

Beth - You guys certainly covered your bases this month! I really hope this is it for you. What type of LP do you have. I hope to see all of us on a our thread over in the We're Pregnant forum!

Mickey - How are you doing? Where are you in the stages of preparing for your FET?

Jennifer -are you hanging in Hun? Let us know if you need anything okay.

Becky - I would love to some gardening and landscaping. I have been in my new home for a year and half and haven't done anything! We built on a lovely lot and I feel like a failure for not doing something wonderful lol. I have no creativity in this area. Not even sure where or how to start!

Amber - glad you and dh are doing fine. Please let us know how your appointment goes today! I need some good news to put some sunshine in our grey skies!

Lilli/Amber - have you guys been thinking of nursery themes yet? I purchased mine so many moons ago. Here is the link to what we are going to use: http://www.babysupermall.com/main/products/kli/kli4003beds_pop1_kli4003beds.html

Hugs to everyone!

[sweetbabydreams]

Good morning everyone --

Thanks for all your advice and support during the past few days. I have a lot of family and friends who are being very good to me, but it's clear that only a few actually get it. (One of my friends quickly changed the subject to "so how's work?" I couldn't even remember being at work!) But I know everyone here understands how it feels. I had the D&C on Friday, then spent the weekend alternating between my couch and my garden. Gwensmom, I think I read that you found your garden very comforting after your losses? I'm the same way -- I only feel ok when I'm digging in the dirt. MrsBritney, that's crazy how similar our D&C stories are! The next morning I woke up in a panic thinking what if I rushed into it, what if there was still a chance? Did anyone else ever think that? The doctors know what they're doing, right? Lilliput, thanks for all your advice about how to get through this. My situation is a little different from everyone else's here -- I have no DH. My longtime boyfriend and I broke up over the issue of kids, and after a couple years of fruitless dating, I came to realize that if I wanted kids (and I do, desperately) i would have to go it alone before I ran out of time. Which makes this setback even scarier for me. I've noticed that this thread gets kind of steamy at times (you go, girls!) but I will not have much to add along those lines, unless a miracle happens and I meet Mr. Right very soon. Anyway, I hope everyone is having a good day, and thanks again for all your support and guidance. One more question -- how long does it take for AF to reappear? GirlieGirl, is this your first AF since the m/c? If so, congratulations that's very exciting!

Hangin' in there --

Jennifer

[girliegirl]

Jennifer, yes this is my first af since the m/c, so 5 wks. it has been a long wait. it took us 14 mos to conceive this one, so I am feeling discouraged, like it could take that long again. and I am now 39, so I am really running out of time. I bought some opk's today. can't believe I am back to ground ZERO again when I should be 15 wks pg. I hope you are doing o.k. It does get a little easier. People say really stupid things. I quit answering the phone and then would quickly change the subject before people would have a chance to say something that would piss me off. Glad your d&c is over, now you can focus on moving on. We are all here to help you through this, these girls have been a life saver for me. No one understands this unless they have been through it. Are you planning to try to get pg again right away?

[AmberinGSO]

Good afternoon ladies! I hope you are all having a good day!

TTC- I love your nursery theme! I have seen that one before and loved it! I really like frogs and have always thought if I were ever to get a tattoo I would get a frog. (Random thought of the day) It's always been my dream to have a little girl and have a REALLY girlie nursery with pink, but I have this feeling that the baby I'm carrying now is a boy. Today is the first day I've had any sort of feeling about it one way or the other. Did you buy just the bedding or do you have furniture too? I saw Da Vinci code last night. I found it pretty much true to the book. I didn't really understand why it got such poor ratings. I thought it was pretty entertaining. If you liked the book I think you would like the movie. Don't you think? I hope AF doesn't show for you! Keep us posted!

Jennifer- I found often times that people would change the subject right away too. At first I was aggravated and hurt by it. I felt like they were ignoring my loss, but then I came to realize that they just didn't know what to say and it made them more comfortable to talk about something less sad so I tried to give them a break. Obviously no one will feel the pain of the loss the way you do. I also had the EXACT SAME thoughts about rushing into it. I called my doctor three times in fact to ask them if maybe there was a chance they were wrong. Though it is totally normal to feel that way they do know what they are doing. I'm glad that you have found gardening helps you cope some. Maybe you could do like Becky and plant something in memory of your little one. I thought that was such a nice idea when Becky told me she did that. Also, I admire you for taking your situation into your own hands. You definitely don't need a DH to join in our thread. Those this a setback, it is just a bump in the road on your journey and you will get that baby you deserve! I will keep you in my prayers.

Girlie- I am so glad to hear AF has made her appearance again. That is very exciting. Now you are just waiting to ovulate and you will soon be on your way! It is so frustrating to be at ground zero again, but you will get there soon. I used to read stuff like that from people and think to myself "yea easy for you to say I want to be there NOW" and I'm sure you feel that way too, but it will happen for you. I'm excited we have so many in various stages of their "waits."

Beth- I'm sure you did ovulate if you had ewcm. Sorry your temps are pulling an Amber, but don't let charting get you down. The time I got my bfp FF predicted FOUR different days for my ovulation none of which were the day that I thought that I ovulated and I turned out to be right. Charting isn't an exact science unfortunately. Hope you aren't working to hard!

As for me, I went to the doctor this morning and left very frustrated. I couldn't scam any type of scan and they insisted that they ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT see anything on an u/s until I was atleast 8 weeks along. They didn't even test my blood for HCG, just for different antibodies and iron. So now I will join Victoria in the 2ww for my u/s which is now scheduled for two weeks from today. Oh well. I am having very comforting dreams so I hope this is a good sign. If I have a repeat of what happened last time I am switching doctors. I just don't know what I will do if I go in AGAIN at 9 weeks to be told my baby has stopped developing weeks ago....I can't think like that.

Anyway, thanks for listening ladies. Talk to you all later.

[sweetbabydreams]

GirlieGirl -- I totally know how you feel about ground zero -- I'm 42 so I'm REALLY running out of time. So yes, I plan to try again right away. I have heard from reliable sources (okay, the book "What to Expect When You're Expecting") that fertility is enhanced for the first 3 cycles after a miscarriage. And several people have told me that they got pregnant again right away. So I'm pretty much clinging to that, and I think that it bodes will for you too (and all of us on this thread)! After all, we've proven we can get pregnant. (I surprised my RE by getting pg on my 1st medicated IUI, 4th overall, but I'd rather have a pregnancy that sticks.) I really admire the fact that you had all your children at home, I would love to do that if I ever get to that point. I'm totally rooting for you this month!

Jennifer

(still haven't figured out the whole signature thing)

[AmberinGSO]

Jennifer- Victoria and I both got pregnant within our first three trys after a m/c. There could be some truth to that!

[sweetbabydreams]

AmberinSGO - I'm so so happy for you, I really hope you can enjoy being pregnant despite the frustration with the u/s. Listen to your dreams, I totally believe part of you must know everything is ok. That's very good advice about the things people say -- I'll try to just cut everyone some slack! My father called yesterday and said "So, are you recovered?" and I was like, "Uh, no, not just yet. Maybe tomorrow." Sheesh! I mean, I wish I were, but .... give me a little time. I'm also glad to hear you also had panicky thoughts about it being too rushed. I'm about to call my doctor for some extra reassurance. But it helps to know I'm not just being neurotic (well, maybe I am, but maybe it's normal.)

Very interesting that you both got pg that quickly! Seriously, several people have told me the exact same thing. I really hope there is something to it.

Jennifer

[girliegirl]

Jennifer- I can't believe your dad asked you that! I was irritated because my friends called a few days later and were like "so what are you guys doing this weekend?" this was like 2 days later. Like we were going to go out and party now that I wasn't pg or something. People just don't get it. I have my first apt with an re on fri. but it took us 14 mos to conceive, so I don't know what to think. I am wondering if he has a low sperm count. we had a s/a done and they wont tell us the results until he goes in june 29th. My dh had 2 m/c with his first wife, so I am just feeling like there are alot of odds against us right now. Maybe I will feel differently after fri. The home births were so awesome. I wouldn't do it any other way. when you do get pg, I can direct you to more info on it. Did your re say when you could try again? do you know what your hcg level was?

[girliegirl]

Amber- keep with those positive thoughts! 2 weeks will go by fast. easy for me to say right?? we have an axious 2 weeks on this thread. 2 weeks to wait for you and victoria's apt. 2ww for beth and 2ww for me to O!! I think TTC may be in a 2ww also.

[girliegirl]

Beth- where have you been all day? I wanted to tell you, my friend with the guy with the small dick. He called her from his vacation and said he missed her so much he was cuttting his trip "short". I told her she should have said, speaking of short, we need to have a talk!!!

[lilliput]

Hey everyone! I can't believe I made it a whole 24 hours without posting anything anywhere! DH and I made a deal. If I leave my computer home instead of bringing it to work, I get my work done faster and get home sooner..... but yesterday I still couldn't seem to get on here and check in with everyone!

Girlie - so glad AF finally showed! I know you were starting to get a little anxious about her impending arrival. I hope she breezes out of town quickly so you can get down to business right off.

Jennifer - People are funny about how they talk to you about the m/c. Everyone acted so gingerly around me, like I was going to break or something. Every body reacts differently, and like you said, you quickly figure out who gets it and will be supportive. Even if you don't have a DH or a partner, I still think it's important to treat yourself to something special....:) How annoying about your dad - I think part of that is being a guy - they really just don't get it at all. When do you leave for Alaska? I've always wanted to go there. My dad went back in the early 80s, and he always said it was his favorite trip ever. BTW, being single doesn't mean you can't be racy! :D

TTC - still getting a high reading??? crazy little machine - sounds like it just likes to eat test strips to me. As for your garden, start with something small and manageable and it will lead to something bigger. You should see my sister's place.....she started with this one little perennial border and now she's out there building stone walls, planting trees, the whole nine yards. I'd start with a spot that's easy and that you can enjoy daily, so something that gets good light. It's loads of fun and a great stress-reliever.

Beth - haven't looked at your chart today. But remember, pulling an Amber can also lead to a BFP, so you never know. I had alarm trouble yesterday morning too, except mind wouldn't turn off.....

Amber - glad to hear you and DH have patched things up. My DH says the same thing about "wanting his wife back". I had an Amber moment in the grocery store yesterday. I almost bought a container of "pub"cheese (cheddar whipped with horseradish) - I had to tell the girls at the checkout not to tell anyone I bought it (we make cheese, I shouldn't be buying processed cheese), but I ended up not buying it and bought a pack of BBQ potato chips, hot dogs, and frozen buffalo wings instead. None of these things are things I ever buy (well, maybe the hot dogs in summer). So DH comes home and sees the now empty bag of chips (yes, I ate them all), and says "someone's pregnant". I'm also having serious issues with cooking. No I don't get nauseous, but I used to have dinner ready right on time, and now for some retarded reason it takes me twice as long, and poor DH is waiting until 9 to eat dinner, when we usually go to bed between 9 and 9:30! It makes me so angry to be this discombobulated and disorganized!

It is not raining today, but it is still cloudy. Grrr. Everyone is starting to go crazy up here.... Hope you all have a great day. We are going to go pick our paint for the bathroom, finally. Should be fun! Will check in later....Victoria

[MrsBritney]

Hello ladies!
Sorry, I haven't been around a lot. I have been busy at work.. and then napping at home! :) I had a GREAT weekend while DH was gone! I mean, not that I didn't miss him, but it was SO nice to have some time to JUST me.. and the puppies, of course. We just laid around watching my DVDs of Charmed! TONS OF FUN let me tell you!!
OK.. onto personals!!

Lilli - I can't believe that you can't get to the doctor for 2 more weeks, but I guess it is better to go later than sooner. ESpecially with the stress of not being able to see anything on the ultra sound.. right? It is better to go when you know you should be able to see something.. rather than when you dont know if you should see something or not!
And being worried about being a mother is totally understandable!! EVeryone has those thoughts before they have their first chid.. but we all know that you will be an AMAZING MOM! Just remember that!! That is so funny that you bought all of that stuff at the grocery store! And I can't beleive you were going to buy processed cheese! You are tooooo funny!!

Amber - I am glad that you forgave your DH, I had no doubts that you would.. did he understand that he upset you? I hope he did..!! That is too bad that you couldn't scam an ultrasound out of your dr.s office.. but they know when the time would be best for an ultra sound.. so I suppose it is mostly better to listen to the professionals.. right? That is funny that you are already so hormonal.. especially with the added stress with this pregnancy.. right? It is totally normal to be that way.. and I am sure that the rest of us will be like that whenever we get our pregnancy too!!

TTC - I usually have a 12-14 day luteal phase... that has never changed since I Was younger.. the part that DOES change is the part before I ovulate.. sometimes it is short, and sometimes it is long.. but the luteal phase is always the same.. so I suppose I will just have to wait and see.. my chart is randomly weird this time, with the bbt, I dont know what it is doing.. but I guess I will just have to wait and see.. right? have you started AF yet??

Girlie - THAT IS SO AWESOME THAT AF SHOWED!!! I am so happy for you.. (weird eh?) I was so happy when AF finally showed after my m/c.. it made me feel right again.. I am sure you understand what I mean.. I am so glad you guys are going to ttc right away.. it is a very stressful time.. but the end result is sure to be amazing!! I think I am in the 2ww now.. but I am not 100%.. I guess I just have to wait a couple weeks and see what my body and my temps do!! Right?
Holy Crap! That is sOOOO Funny about your friend who is dating that guy with the small ****!!! She really DOES need to have a SERIOUS talk with him.. I just wouldn't be able to do it!! HAAH

Sweet - I know exactly what you are talking about... after my D&C I totally woke in a panic wondering if I had done the right thing.. but I know that I did.. the doctor even confirmed it again when the tissue sample results came back and she said that there was fetal tissue but nothing that resembled a fetus.. which there should have been if the baby had progressed past 6 weeks.. So I know that we did the right thing.. but I was stressed about it.. and worried that I had made a mistake.. but I prayed about it, and I feel calm about it now.. and that is all that I could do.. pray.. God really helped me thru this all.. along with these wonderful ladies....

As for me.. I have had some weird crampy feelings for the last 12 hours or so.. and last night I saw a little brown on the TP and then some very light pink spotting this morning! !What does that mean? Is my cycle totally messed up?
I dont know! I am kinda confused.. because my temps have gone back up.. and I just dont know what is going on..
I am really not stressing too much about it.. but I just wondered if any of you have experienced that?
anyhow.. I have a lot to do today.. so I must get going.. but I will be around today!!

Beth

[girliegirl]

Beth, I wonder if you are pg? I had cramping and a little spotting a few days after I O and thats when I was pg. I will keep my fingers crossed for you!

af is very heavy about like day 2 of m/c. is that normal? I am also very dizzy and don't feel real good. and very pmsy. I feel like I could cry any minute.

[girliegirl]

VERY FRUSTRATED.

I have my apt w/ re on fri. we already know that dh is not going w/me or to his urologist apt so we can get his s/a right?? o.k. well last night I was reading on the internet about what to expect at the re and it said that they have to do blood work on exactly cd3, which is tommorrow. my apt is on cd5. so i called the re office this morning to see if that was true and if so would they send me in for blood work tommorrow, before my apt on fri. she said yes its true and no we wont send you in until we see you so you will not begin any testing until next cycle. ARE YOU F**ing kidding me. I about lost it. pleaded with her, nothing. so I got off the phone and felt like just forgot this whole baby thing this is ridiculous another month in the toilet. So then I called the re back and got someone different, explained the whole thing to her again, she was much nicer, said she understood my reasoning, however they would not order blood work until they see me, like I was asking for brain surgery before they see me or something, but she said call your ob and see if they will order it then they can fax it to us and you will have that part out of the way. so that is what I did. spent another 1/2 hr on the phone explaining the whole thing to that receptioist and am now waiting to hear back.

[Gwensmom]

Ladies - I don't have time to catch up with you all...our internet has been down for a few days...just wanted to pop in and say hello. My dh and I are off for my follow-up appt with my ob (follow-up after the m/c). I am nervous that she is going to want me to stick to the 3 month wait. I talked to DH and he sounds willing to be open about that, as long as my doctor says it is okay. We will see. I will check back in later.

[girliegirl]

Becky, If they tell you to wait 3 mos. ask her if there is a physical reason to wait that long. Let us know how it goes!

[MrsBritney]

Hey girlie!!

I dont know about being pg or not, but it is weird.. my LP has ALWAYS been right on.. and I am a bit concerned that I have this very light spotting.. pink mixed with a little bit of brown.. but no red.. I hate analyzing everything that happens with my uterus.. but .. then again, at least it gives me something to do during the day.. eh? :) HAhah
I will keep you guys posted about it.. but the cramping is VERY mild.. I can feel it... but it is not like usual AF.. so I dont know what to think.. I will keep your suggestion in mind tho! lol

I am sorry that the re's office wouldn't take to your pleading.. but I was going to suggest going to your regular doctor to get the b/w done.. so that was good that they suggested that for you.. did you ask the re's office what kinds of tests to ask for so that you would make sure to have everything that they needed for the first meeting?

Becky - I hope that your doc doesn't make you stick to the 3 month thing.. my doc didn't even do that.. and she is pretty conservative.. so I will hope for the best.. but if your doc does tell you that.. please ask them if there is a medical reason for it.. and not just emotional issues.. :)
Ihope for the best!!

Good luck!
Beth

[sweetbabydreams]

Hi everyone -- I'm a little worried because I still have some cramping and it's been 4 days since the D&C. Is that normal, or should I be concerned? I've been checking my temp, and it's been normal, but this morning it was 99.3 -- but that was after drinking hot tea and blow-drying my hair. Does that make a difference? I don't have any bleeding. I'm also very tired. How long does it take to feel physically normal again?? Thanks for any help anyone can give!

MrsBritney, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your post-O symptoms are a great sign.

GirlieGirl -- I answered your b/w questions on the other thread. I can't believe they're being so annoying, don't they understand all you want to do is get going again?? Doctors! It sounds like for you, it will be particularly important to get your DH tested, since his ex had a history of m/c. Good luck!!

[girliegirl]

Jennifer,
I did not have a d&c, so I am not for sure, but I know for me, it took awhile to feel good again, and I would think cramping would be normal, I would say if you still have cramping and slight fever tommorrow, call the dr. When do you leave for your trip? weren't you going to a wedding? I still had cramping and bleeding for a week, but a m/c without d&c is probably different.

I never even talked to a dr, thats whats so annoying the receptionists are making this decision.

[sweetbabydreams]

Those receptionists should know better than to mess with a woman trying to get preggo. I've never been a pushy person, I'm more live-and-let-live, but this journey has def. brought out the mother-tiger in me. So do what you have to do, GirlieGirl! As for me, yes, I'm leaving tomorrow for Alaska, ready or not. I'm probably in for some rocky moments (my father, for instance!) My sister has a newborn, so that may be hard for me. My SIL has been very inspiring to me -- their first baby was born early due to some kind of mysterious virus, and he only lived a day. It was devastating for our whole family, but she and my brother handled it with so much grace and dignity -- they cuddled and loved little Samuel for every moment of his short life and had a beautiful memorial for him. I still cry when I think about it. But they waited only a short time to try again, and now they have two wonderful kids. She has been incredibly understanding and supportive to me. So hopefully this trip will be helpful as well as possibly stressful at times.

[MrsBritney]

Hey there sweet - Just so you know, you have to take your temperature right when you wake up before you even get out of bed at, and also at around the same time every single morning in order for it to mean anything on your basal body temperature chart.
So if you get up or drink something, that definitely changes your temperature, and you can no longer count on the temp meaning anything...

And just for some information.. I had cramping the day after the D&C and then nothing for 4 days, and then MAJOR cramping and bleeding again for a couple of days..
IT is different for every woman, so I wouldn't get concerned unless you are filling up more than one pad an hour with blood.. that is what the dr.s office told me when I called them with my horrible cramps a week after the D&C..
Just take it easy, lay down with a heating pad.. and get some rest..
If you need anything.. just let us know!!

Beth

[TTCinNC]

Hi, Ladies! Just getting around to being able to type anything. My mom's BF is in the hospital again it's keeping me pretty busy trying to figure out what's what from 400 miles away.

Real brief fertility update, lol - FM is still asking for sticks, but I don't have any and wouldn't use them if I did. AF is due Friday. Symptoms - mildly sore nips, bad gas, and off and on weird crampy twinge like things (is that vague enough or what LOL). So basically I'm pregnant or pre AF which is what I am every month lol. We'll see. Sorry I can't type more personals, but I am keeping up with posts and it does my spirit good!

[lilliput]

Beth - could it be implantation spotting? I never had it with either pg, and some maintain it's all a big myth, but then some women say they've had it (my SIL for example), so who knows? I saw that FF took away your crosshairs, but if it is an implantation spot, their old crosshairs around CD12 would work for that, since you would be around 8DPO right now, right? Or am I doing my special version of fuzzy math again? Keeping everything crossed for you! I had cramping mid-LP as well last cycle that went away, and then from about 16DPO until around 18 or 19DPO it was much more intense and uncomfortable. They still come and go, like right this bloody second for instance. Just a thought. And today I ate more garbage. McDonald's of all things.

Girlie - glad you pursued the bloodwork with your regular doctor. That is really frustrating about the RE's office. At least someone there would listen to you and give you a helpful tip on how to get the process moving. It seems like all these places get so wrapped up in their protocols and procedures that no one has the time or interest to listen to what people are telling them anymore. So frustrating! Good for you though for grabbing the bull by the horns. As for your heavy AF, my first post-m/c AF was a doozy as well. Really heavy, quite clotty, and crampier than usual AFs, but still not nearly as painful as the m/c itself. It felt like I was cleaning myself out so to speak. Sorry if TMI.

Jennifer - I didn't have a D&C so I'm not sure what to tell you about the bleeding. Beth is right though about the temping. Our temperatures fluctuate all day, and for BBT purposes you have to take it when you first wake up before you even get out of bed. If you think you are running a fever, like you've got chills and other fever symptoms, then I would consider calling the doc. I hope your trip goes well. I don't doubt there will be moments that are tough, but it sounds like some of the folks that have been the most supportive for you will be there as well, and that will be a huge help. Sending you a big hug for the journey and the rest of the week!

Becky - I hope your appointment goes well today. I agree with everyone else about making sure they are giving you a medical reason for waiting, especially since you m/c'ed naturally. I'd really push them on it, since you want to get things going again. This is the day of being firm with our health care providers! :) Let us know how things go for you!

As for me, picked out our paint. Took forever. Took forever to pick out our new faucets and stuff, only to realize, gee, maybe we should have picked and installed the new shower/tub stuff BEFORE we re-sheetrocked. DUH! So now we have to make a hole in our brand new wall. Live and learn I guess. (I know you're probably laughing at us Girlie!) it was fun though, and made me really excited (at least right now) for the new house project. Can't wait to really start picking stuff for me instead of things that I like that I can feel fairly confident other people will like too and not find gross when they come to look at our house later this summer. I have managed to not get grumpy today too, which is great!

[MrsBritney]

Lilli - Hi there!! yea, you are right on the math, I looked again and if it were implantation bleeding, then that would be about the right time frame.. but I am just not really willing to beleive it...
Maybe I am in denial.. I dont know.. but I really just didn't think that this was my cycle. *shrug* I never really believed in implantation bleeding, but I guess 1 in every 3 women have it.. so that is interesting to know.. but most of them only realized it after the fact.. like when after they found out they were pregnant..
Were you saying that you bled mid-LP this last cycle when you got your BFP? Hrm... if so.. that is crazy..
I read some more on implantation bleeding, and they say that women who are pregnant for the first time do not have implantation bleeding.. or implantation cramping.. but women with their 2nd or 3rd pregnancy are more likely to have it.. isn't that strange? You arE SO lucky to eat McDonalds! I am jealous :) hee hee....

Anyhow.. I am doing well today, we had a meeting with everyone.. it was kind of a downer.. about getting laid off and everything.. I am thinking I might start looking for another job sooner, rather than later.. if I find something awesome.. I really dont want to pass it up just for a little bit of severence pay.. even if it could pay off some major bills.. right?
anyhow..
How is everyone else doing today??

beth

[girliegirl]

Just an update. I had to make 6 phone calls yesterday about trying to get that blood work. as of last night no one had called me back and everyone I talked to wouldn't do it. I cried all night and morning. I am a mess and I assume it is because of af. dh doesn't have a clue how to support me and says stupid things like it doesn't matter if we have a baby and maybe god doesn't want us to have one, which made me more upset. anyways I called again this am at 7. and someone finally called me back, she tried to tell me that they wouldn't necessarily order this blood work and I told her the re always do these tests first, so she made a phone call and called me back and said i was right and she would call it in for me. so I need to get going to have that done. she also said the re should be able to refer to the s/a when i see him fri. so I feel a little better, but I feel very down and negative right now. so I am going to m.i.a. until my attitude gets better. I feel like I don't have anything positivve to bring right now, and you guys are doing so good, and I am so happy about that, I don't want to be a downer. its not in my nature to be this down, so I am sure I will feel better in a few days. Maybe You will have some good news for me by then, like some bfp's!

Have a great day everyone!!

[MrsBritney]

Girlie - When you are down.. that is the WORST time to go MIA from these boards.. we are all here for a reason.. and mostly, that reason is to help all of the other girls on the board too... So I want you to come back and talk with us.. and share all of your concerns.. because we will all be here to back you up!! We need your support when we are down.. just as you need ours when you are feeling down... that is what we are here for !! so come back.. and tell us how you feel.. we have all been there, done that... so we know what it feels like to be down.. everyone has those days.. and now it is our turn to cheer you up!! So ... good luck with the b/w today.. I am glad someone finally listened to you.. everything will happen.. I promise.. :) Just keep your chin up!!

As for me.. I had a bit of spotting this morning.. but I dont see any now.. and I am talking like super minimal spotting.. barely anything there... So I dont know what is going on.. maybe I just had a surge of estrogen mid luteal phase or something. .who knows.. hopefully it will be over with today and I can just wait for AF to get here... then proceed to next months cycle.. :) What do you guys think of that?!
Anyhow.. off to get some more work done.. :)

beth

[Gwensmom]

So....the ob appointment was not as I had wished. My ob is sticking to her guns and recommending the 3 months! AUGH!!! I was so visibly upset when she said this....but she still feels like I am not ready to go back on the roller coaster......well, I feel like this is a worse roller coaster. Anyhow, I specifically asked is the recomendation was for my emotional or physical health and she said BOTH. That was all my dh needed to hear to feel like we had to wait the three months. I was so very sad and disappointed. My ob said that she was most concened for my emotional health, as heaven-forbid, if something were to happen again she doesn't know how I would be able to handle it so soon. I kept saying I just don't want to keep waiting and pushing my time to be a mother further and further off. What did bother me was she made a big deal out of my age...28. She said if I were 38 she would say don't wait, but since I have time she said to give myself the time! I have given myself 5 years since I married DH, I have wanted to get pregnant that whole time......now I am so ready, and it was an insult for her to say that because I am 28 I should be okay with waiting. I am NOT. I wanted a whole slew of kiddies, so if I keep waiting to have a successful FIRST child, who knows if my dream of having a houseful will be lost. As you can probably tell, I am still sad and upset. At the very end of the appointment, she said that I need to AT LEAST wait 2 months, but again, she recomended 3. DH may go for the 2 wait, but we will see. Thanks for hearing me out with my rant.

Blessings and pray for patience for me..........

[Gwensmom]

Victoria - I haven't tried the beer trick with the slugs....DH keeps drinking it too fast :) My bathroom smells like heaven right now, I cut a vaseful of pink peonies in my garden and they smell so wonderful. Hope your rains end soon...it has been rainy here for the past 3 days. Oh well, less watering to do :)

[lilliput]

Girlie - please don't leave us! We're here for you whenever you need to vent, and when you're feeling down, and when you're happy too! That's what makes these boards so wonderful for all of us - we're all here for each other no matter how we are feeling. So I hope you'll check back in with us again soon. Good luck with the bloodwork, and I am glad that they finally listened to you. It is a bummer about DH, but I have to say if he's anything like my DH, who really doesn't know how to handle "girl" issues like this, then I completely understand your frustration and anger. Sending you a big hug!

Becky - I'm sorry about your appointment. Did you get her to give you the exact physical reasons (i.e, were you a nag about it)? It is a real bummer though. I'm sure that if you decide to stick to the 2 cycle plan that the time will pass quickly. I know that sounds crazy, but I know that you can make it. We're here to get you through the wait if that's what happens. Does DH have a gut feeling about all this like you do, or is he just towing the OB line right now? Just wondering if he had voiced his feelings on it, beyond what your doctor has said. BTW, make sure you use cheap beer for the slugs, like Bud or something. They don't like microbrews or fancy beer....:)

Beth - keeping everything crossed for a BFP for you this month! Don't know what to think about the tiny bit of spotting. I didn't actually have any mid-LP spotting, just some "cramping", which I never recorded because I couldn't tell if it was that kind of cramping, or if I was just having other random abdominal discomfort.

All is well here. The sun finally came out!! I am going out into the garden in a few minutes to do some weeding. I slept like CRAP last night, so I'm a bit tired today. But it's a great opportunity to get some outside time! Hugs to everyone!

[MrsBritney]

Lilli - Hey there :)
Yea, I know.. I dont know what to think about the mid cycle spotting either. I suppose I will just have to wait for another week or so and see what is going on.. right?
That is all I can figure!
too bad that you slept like crap last night.. so did I.. but I do most of the time.. because I have 3 dogs staying with me now instead of my usual 2.. and my usual 2 generally sleep thru the night.. Unfortunately, my sisters dog, who we are watching.. does not. Blech.

The day is going by.. faster than I would like.. I have a lot to get done.. so I better get to it..
but..

WHERE IS EVERYONE?!?!?!

Beth

[sweetbabydreams]

Hello all -- It sounds like everyone is having a crappy day all around. I'm so sorry, you all are such brave compassionate people, and you don't deserve all this hurt and frustration. I just know there's got to be light at the end of this tunnel (at least that's what I keep telling myself.) I'm having a down day as well, but I won't add to the mood just now. I will just send hopeful prayers out to all of you -- someday we will look back at all this madness and marvel at what we went through for our babies.

[sweetbabydreams]

Okay, now I'm feeling so depressed that I have to vent. My RE told me today that I should wait out a whole cycle before starting again -- one period, then another one. That seems like FOREVER. I don't know how I'll live until then. And I'm about to go up to my sister's wedding -- it would have been so great if I were still pg, but now I feel like my mood is going to be the opposite of everyone else's, and God knows i don't want to bring everyone down, but it's going to be so hard to act happy when I'm still hurting so much. And -- my birthday is the day before the wedding. One year older, and further away from pg than ever.

[AmberinGSO]

Hi ladies! I don't have a whole lot of time right now. I will write long personals to everyone tomorrow or maybe tonight.

Just wanted to say to Sweetbaby, Girlie and Gwen the wait to get going again does totally suck a$$. The doctors try make you wait a few cycles and I really think it's for emotional healing, but what they don't understand obviously is the only way we can emotionally heal is to become pregant again. Sitting around and waiting just makes us think about the pregnancy and the loss and torture ourselves with how pregnant we would be this week and how long will it take to become pregnant again and will it ever and a slew of other horrible thoughts. It is so frustrating and I am keeping you guys in my thoughts and prayers. I was there once too and I hated that emotional rollercoaster ride, but stick around here and just vent when you need to.

Sweetbaby- I relate to you about going to a happy occasion and dreading it because your mood is the exact opposite. I found out three days before xmas I was miscarrying and had my D&C the day before xmas eve. Needless to say that was the sh*ttiest xmas of all time. I hated everyone. I got really drunk and passed out on a couch. Everyone pretty much avoided me besides DH who got sloshed along with me...Sorry not saying alcohol is an answer to problems or anything just trying to say I understand how you feel in my own roundabout way.
I hope you all start feeling better soon, but don't rush it. Take the time you need to get back on your feet again.

Hello to everyone else!! I will write to you all soon!

[girliegirl]

Hello everyone!
Thanks sfor all the support, it helps alot. I am feeling a little better today. I think day 1 and 2 of my period was an emotional roller coaster. I felt like I did the day I had the m/c. anyways I did get in for the blood work and tommorrow I see the re. so we will see. I just feel very discouraged. but we will see. i feel like we probably just wont have a baby.


Becky, sounds like you are a little discouraged too. that sucks having to wait that long. are you going to use birth control or just see what happens? Luckily you are only 28, that is still alot of time. 39 seems like I am really about out of time.

Jennifer, I hope your trip goes well, I know it will be hard for you at times, so take time out for yourself if you need it. This is such a hard thing to go through and no one really understands unless they have been through it. sounds like your sil could be a big help. Let us know how you are doing.

[MrsBritney]

Hi everyone.. isn't it sad that none of us really has time for personals right now? I really dont.. i will come back later on today and try and get them in..
but you guys should look at my chart and tell me what you think.. my temp dipped AGAIN today... I dont know what is going on.. but I think it might be that I am getting sick... I have been REALLY tired the last few days.. falling asleep on the car ride home ( I carpool with DH ) and my upper back has been sore for a few days. .and now my neck is sore.. not like "injury" sore either.. like I am SOOOO tired that I can't keep my head up sore.. it SUCKS.. I dont know what is wrong with me.. and I feel like my nose is starting to stuff up.. I feel like I need another long weekend.. Thank GOD for Memorial day!! right?

Amber - I hope you are feeling better about things.. I know you have to wait till June 5th to see/hear a heartbeat, but I am praying for you every day .. and I know that things will be ok.. Just remember to breathe!!!

Girlie - I hope you are feeling better than you were before.. and just remember that we have all been there.. and we will be here for you while you are there.. I know having that first AF can remind us so much of what we lost.. but it is also a show that our bodies are ready to move on... so start the BD process lady!!

Lilli - how are things with you? You get to see the doc on June 2nd.. right? Good luck with that!! let us know how it goes... but keep posting here ... we want you and Amber with us for a long time!!

TTC - where are you? Things going ok for you?

Purple!!! IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.. how is the FET process moving along? you shared the good news and then poof! you were gone again!!

To anyone that I missed!! POST POST POST!!

Ok I said I wasn't going to do personals.. but I caught a fire in my ass and did it anyways..
I honestly 100% do not think this is my cycle.. especially because my temps are all over the place and my CM is being weird.. I had EWCM first thing this morning.. with a tiny bit of spotting.. and now it is back to being creamy CM.. so I dont know what is going on.. I just think that maybe my body is having some sort of "stutter".. you know?? So if you know anyone with the same type of deal going on.. send them my way!!

beth

[girliegirl]

Beth- How are you feeling?? any symptoms. I really think you were having implantation spotting. I know you are probably trying not to obsess over it, but I would like to!! So tell me any twinges,or anything yet????


Vicoria- Sounds like you are doing really well. I am so glad. Your apt is a week away right? How's Mr. and Mrs. Villa coming on the home improvelments?? WE are just finishing our house up. It will be done by next sat for the parade, so this is s busy time. dh is sooo stressed. good thing I am not O. He would not be into it.

AMber, How are you, haven't seen much of you lately.

TTC and Mickey- where the heck are you?

[MrsBritney]

Girlie - no.. :) no symptoms.. my boobs are still tiny.. per usual.. I am just tired.. but that means nothing. All it means is that I have been staying up too late the last week or so.. I dont really see any more spotting... but my temp went down again today.. my chart is all over the freakin place! What is UP with it?!?!
Click on my ticker and look at my chart and tell me what you think.. ok?

But honestly, I dont feel any "symptoms" like last time.. plus, I am thinking that I didn't even ovulate this cycle.. because everything is so weird.. might have something to do with all of the stress I am under with trying to look for another job while trying to figure out what to do next..
who knows!

But if you guys have any insight.. or have seen a chart kinda like mine around.. let me know so I can take a look at it!!

beth

[girliegirl]

Beth- I didn't know I could click on your ticker!! Learn something new everyday!! I am not a chart expert by any means, but I would say see what it looks like in the am, cuz its too soon for your temps to come way down isn't it? so maybe tommorow it will be up again. Remember Amber's chart? She was all over the place and we all thought she didn't O, but she did.

Yesterday in the middle of my meltdown, the ups guy brought a tank top that I had forgotton I had ordered, apparently it has been on back order, it was a so so cute maternity tank that was pink and said "body by baby" on it. I was bummed, I wanted to wear that this summer. maybe I could have it changed to "body by Wendy's" thats more like it!!

[MrsBritney]

Girlie - you are definitely back to your cheerful self! and funny about the tank top "Body by Wendys"!!!

Yea. .I remember that Ambers chart was all over the place too.. I forgot about that.. But I am not feeling pregnant.. Just sore and tired.. probably from stress.. but who knows right? I guess we will find out in another week or two.. if AF shows.. or if she doesn't.. and I am driving myself crazy.. eh?
But yes, it IS too soon for my temps to be coming down for AF.. so I dont know what My stupid body is doing..
DH looked at me last night .. because I made some comment about having kids.. and he goes "dont worry, it worked" and I said.. what?
And he goes "all of that sex we were having the last couple weeks.. it worked" I was like.. "WORKED? huh?" he goes "yea.. we will be having a baby".. he is so funny..
Oh well.. life goes on.. I guess.. huh? I will just wait till tomorrow and see what happens with my temps then! right?

beth

[Gwensmom]

Hi ladies,

This weekend is my 5th anniversary....DH and I are getting away to the coast and leaving our foster son and dog with my folks. It was going to be a great weekend (when it was all first planned I was still pregnant)...now I am just feeling sad about the whole thing. We can't even try to have a baby now! Usually this time of year (summer in the near future, sunshine coming through the windows) I am in great spirits, but not this year. I am just so darn sad. Sorry to be a downer, but I just feel a little loss of hope. I pray this time passes quickly.

I hope you guys are having better days than me. Preggos - keep looking up...everything is going to work out and your little ones are going to be so loved...they already are.

Beth - I was told that I was having an annovulatory cycle when I fell pg this last time, so you never know.......maybe you are going to ovulate late? Are you still bding? I would say keep at it!

Girlie - Doesn't it just stink to have to pack up our cute summer maternity clothes......I am sorry you aren't able to wear that tank this summer!!! I went out and bought a few summer tops when I found out I was pg this time around.....now they are all packed away. I just hate that. :(

I am not in a good place to keep going with this. I hope you all have a nice evening.

Becky

[MrsBritney]

Gwensmom -
Wow, seems like I am really the only one around today.. i am SO LAME! :) just playing..
but really... Amber was told the same thing when she found out she was pregnant.. we all looked at her chart and said it looked like she was having an anovulatory cycle.. but lo and behold, she stuck to her guns and she was right, so who knows what is going on.. I just know that I am not feeling like myself today.. not really depressed.. but not really chipper like usual... kinda down.. and out.. ya know?
I am so sorry that you are feeling low today... but CONGRATS on your 5 year anniversary! That has to say SOMETHING.. right? You guys have been together for a while and he has been there for you during those times when you have needed him the most.. and I hope that you can enjoy your anniversary no matter WHAt the circumstances are right now. just enjoy being with your DH and go ahead and BD.. just with protection.. and just remember that altho it SUCKS.. everything happens for a REASON.. and I know that you will get your baby soon...
We are all here rooting for you.. and praying for you...
I pray for all of the ladies on here.. I have really grown to cherish the friendships we have all formed and if you need ANYTHING at all.. just ask!!

I hope you have a better evening than you did a day.. but I know that things will start looking up soon... Dont lose hope!! Keep the faith.. just wait.. you will see the light soon!!

HUGS
beth

[AmberinGSO]

Hi ladies! Sorry I haven’t been around to write personals lately. I just haven’t been feeling like myself for a few days and that long visit with my family kept me pretty busy. I’m home now though!

Sweet- Anymore cramping? When I had my D&C I didn’t bleed at all afterwards. Then, a week later, I randomly began bleeding a lot for two hours and then it just stopped and I never bled again until AF showed. It scared me, but I think you never can tell with those procedures what is going to happen. If you don’t run a fever though I think you are ok and probably don’t have an infection or anything. When is your post op. appointment? I hope you are feeling better.

TTC- How is your mother’s bf? I hope he is doing better. How are you feeling about AF? Do you think she is coming or could this be it? I think the twinging feelings are a good sign. Any CM? I’m hoping this is it for you!

Victoria- How are you doing? Are you sleeping like crap every night or was that one night just a fluke? I find that I fall asleep around 9 and get up two times in the night to pee and then wake up at around 6am for good. My last pregnancy I always woke up at around 6 or 7 too. This is really unusual for me because I normally have to drag myself out of bed at 9. Maybe it’s just because I’m going to bed early. Do you get to take naps during the day? Oh I hope you do if you are as tired as I am! I don’t know what I would do if I couldn’t nap. I hope you aren’t working too hard. By the way I feel the same way you do about not being “girlie” and wondering what my daughter will do. I am definitely a t-shirt and jeans and flip flops kind of girl and I only wear make up on special occasions (like my wedding or my high school prom). My sister is a cosmetologist so I guess I will send my little sweet one her way! Or maybe she will be like me and not care for any of it.

Girlie- I am glad you took action and got your bloodwork done! Don’t give up hope yet! You are NOT too old to have this baby and you will have one! I really believe that and I will continue praying for you and your DH. I am sorry about the tank top arriving. Doesn’t it always seem like life finds a way to kick us when we are feeling down. Don’t worry because it can’t rain all the time and I think with the help of your RE you really are going to have a positive outcome and when your DH holds the baby you guys made together for the first time this whole terrible ordeal will be forgotten and you will appreciate your little one that much more.

Gwen- I’m so sorry that you are feeling down. Maybe this vacation will be just what you need to relax you some and get away from it all. Not that you can get away from your grief, but maybe some new scenery will be a relief right now. It sucks that the doctor stood firm on his/her decision. Maybe you could do a little research on the subject and show DH that it is ok to get pregnant. I personally think waiting one cycle and then trying is plenty. My sister did this and she has a happy healthy ten month old now. I hope that you are able to have a good anniversary with DH. I will pray for you guys.

Beth, oh Beth- You and that chart hmmm…I have been analyzing it for a bit. My first instinct was that you ovulated on cd 12. Then I looked at your chart for last cycle. I think it is possible that you ovulated on cd 18 like the last cycle. However, I think what is important is that you go with what YOU feel in your gut. When do you think you ovulated? Did you ever have any ovulation pains? I also think that the creamy CM is a good sign. Is there a lot of it? If so that is a good sign. Take a look at my chart from my bfp. I KNOW I ovulated on cd 16 and look what a mess it is. Maybe your body doesn’t know what to do with itself because you got your bfp. The fact that your DH is confident is a good sign. Mine was right on when I got mine. I he said I know you are pregnant don’t worry and he never said that before. Also, my best friend told me she would “eat her own arm” if I wasn’t pregnant because she thought this was it too. Weird. Anyway, when I got my bfp I got a dull ache in my lower abdomen around 10 11 dpo and I had creamy cm. That was about the only symptoms I had. I think I had some boob soreness too. Give it a few days and let’s see what your temp does. Temping isn’t an exact science. I think your gut feeling is what is most important. If you did ovulate on cd 12 tomorrow will be 11dpo and you might could get a bfp. I’m so excited for you!

As for me, sorry I haven’t been around as much. Like I said, I just haven’t been feeling like myself lately! I hope you guys all have a wonderful long weekend!
Hugs all around!

[lilliput]

Hey everbody!

Girlie - glad to hear you sounding like your usual self! I'm also psyched you got your bloodwork done. Major initial hurdle out of the way! Our bathroom is almost done. We ordered our lighting and plumbing fixtures (yes, backwards, should have done that first - now we have to cut a hole in the new sheetrock to put the showerhead in...don't ask) and they have arrived. Toilet and new sink to be delivered tomorrow. Finally! Very excited, although it is making our other bathroom look like crap. Oh well! Oh, and Girlie, there is a woman on the Jan. mom thread who is 44 and pg, so it ain't over yet!! Keep your chin up!

Beth - Haven't looked at your chart yet, but all I can say is it ain't over yet! Your DH sounds too funny! So sweet too. I'm sorry you're feeling low too! Is it the pre-summer blues going around? It sounds like a long weekend is just what you need! Put your feet up, swing in the hammock, and have a Corona, like on your birthday!

Becky - Wow! Five years! Congratulations! that is really exciting. I know you are feeling low right now. It may be that this vacation you are taking will actually help you both heal all the more. Spending that time alone together without the headaches of everyday ick might be just what you and DH need. Beth is right, you have both been through a lot in the last year, and you've been through it together. I would try to celebrate the strength you have and the love you share, and that you made it through all this together. sending you big hugs, and hoping you went and picked some more peonies!

TTC - so what is the update? what is going on?

You guys are the greatest - so strong, so supportive, and a really special group of women. I know that little bundles are in everyone's future!!

[MrsBritney]

OK guys - LAST update today I PROMISE.. I dont know what is with me.. I am just on a KICK today!! haha

Amber- I am SO glad to hear from you!! I know. I am totally overanalyzing my chart.. just like you did last time!! I wish I could be more like I was LAST cycle.. where I just didn't pay attention.. and just let things be.. but we all saw where that got me! :) haha.. NO WHERE.. so I guess I just need to calm down and take it easy and realize that my temps could be doing ANYTHING for ANY reason and there could be anything going on in there.. I know I will be disappointed if I am not pg this time.. but all I can do is just be patient..
What is weird is.. I have had SO many people asking me lately if I am pregnant "yet".. people usually dont ask me.. even tho it has been 4 months since the m/c.. so maybe that is a good sign too!!
DH thinks this is our month.. but I just can't stand with him on that yet!! and I wont till I see a BFP.. so I guess waiting is to be had here.. I am not having any symptoms.. I have had some weird crampy feelings in my uterus, but that could be just my body getting ready for AF too.. so I am not counting anything OUT yet.. but I am definitely not counting anything IN either!! I KNOW I AM CRAZY!!! But I am not goin to let it get me down!!As for you - you get to see your bean in a little over a week.. I am sure it is driving you crazy.. but the longer you wait, the more definite the U/S will be and the doc will appreciate that!! I am sure you are VERY tired right now.. and I am glad you are getting your rest!! Best of luck to you and I will keep praying for you!!!

Lilli - You READ my freakin mind! I am DEFINITELY going to go out after work Saturday night.. buy a 6 pack of coronas, make some tacos, set up the hammock and eat and drink .. not too much because I want to have a NICE sleep saturday night as I want to sleep in on sunday.. but drink enough to just feel more relaxed!!
As for you.. how are YOU feeling? You get to see your little bean in about a week .. right? that is FABULOUS.. I am so excited for you! are you going to post a pic of it once you get the pic? Just keep us ladies posted.. :)

As for ME - I went to go pull some files for my audit at work.. and I have been so freakin clumsy... I smashed my middle finger in the cabinet.. and it is totally in SO much pain! It BURNS while I am typing and it is swollen and throbbing.. I am SUCH A TARD!!! Just a bit of blood under the nail.. but man does it ever hurt!!

ok.. off to go home now.. I think I will BD tonite just for the fun of it.. not because we HAVE to! :) DH will like that!!

Talk to you guys later on!!

HUGS TO ALL OF YOU AND BABY DUST!!!!! * ** * * ** *

beth

[AmberinGSO]

Aww darn Beth! I was really hoping I could make some sense of your chart today after another temp! Still kind of baffling though! I think if you had water or ewcm and now it is creamy that is a sign that you ovulated though. Maybe you are just preggo and that's why it is crazy. Hmmm...Maybe we will have better luck tomorrow! That sucks about your finger. I do that stuff all the time. By the way....mmmm tacos...I think I will have to have tacos now. By the way you are not crazy! It is so normal to overanalyze. I think everyone on this site is guilty of it at one time or another! I know I was every month and now I still am just now I analyze pregnancy symptoms. I think it could be a little early for AF cramping for you don't you think? You still have a few days! When will you test this time?

Victoria- Glad to hear the home improvements are coming along! I wrote to you on the previous page. I don't know if you saw it or not because we were posting at the same time and your post made a new page. Hope you have a nice relaxing long weekend! Next week is your u/s!!!!

As for me, I'm feeling ok. Feeling a little icky this morning, but that is just fine for me! I'm glad! I'm about to go grocery shopping and DH is asleep (he works nights) so I will be going alone. I hope I come back with something besides pinto beans, grapes, vanilla yogurt, and sandwich meat. Ok quick confession... I haven't bded with DH since I found out I was pregnant. Almost three weeks! I'm just so scared that I will hurt the baby or that it will cause a m/c. I feel like a total jerk, but I'm just so paranoid. Is this horrible? Should I just do it? I mean it's not that I don't want to because man I do, but...ugh! DH is getting antsy!
Have a great day ladies!

By the way TTC- Did AF show or no???

[MrsBritney]

Amber!! HI there prego lady!! :)
I know.. I was hoping *I* could make some sense out of my chart with todays temp... but it only went up just a little.. however, I will be temping again in the morning.. so NEVER FEAR! A NEW DAY WILL BE HERE ! (Sorry, I had to rhyme, I am a dork) I am a bit baffled, but I also know that my last cycle was 32 days, so I have another week before I would even THINK About testing.. so I will just wait until NEXT Weekend and see what is up then! :) I had some mild cramping yesterday - but today I am feeling normal again.. and happy today!! It is WAY too early for AF.. so I still have some more time to over analyze! HAHA I love Fridays, even tho I have to work both jobs today, and then a full day tomorrow.. I dont care! DH has to work monday... not only will he be getting a full day of over time this week, it is TIME AND A HALF.. so WOO HOO For more money!!
My finger STILL hurts, and actually, when I touch the tip of my nail, I can't feel anything down the middle of my nail bed.. so I am sure that something bad happened.. but there is only a little blood spot under my nail.. so hopefully it wont fall off! how ugly would that be?!?!
Tacos are my healing food.. I LOVE them.. especially spicy chicken tacos that are ho'made (haha I love saying HO'made.. because they are made by me!!) you need to make some chicken tacos too! Just dont drink the corona's like I am going to!!
And yea, I am TOTALLY overanalyzing my chart.. and my body.. but what else do I have to do 24/7? HAHA..
I figured you would be overanalyzing your prego symptoms.. as the rest of us will be once we have conceived!!

Anyhow.. I think you should just have sex with your DH!! HE NEEDS It.. and wants it.. but just make sure that it not the knock out, drag down, animal sex sessions that you are used to.. and all will be ok! :) haha!! Just had to say that.. I have NO CLUE how your "Sessions" are.. but I thot it would make people laugh!!

WHERE ARE THOSE WEDDING PICS?!?!
HUGS AND BABY DUST!!

Beth

[Gwensmom]

I only have a moment before I head out for the weekend...wanted to pop in and wish you all a great Memorial Day weekend. Be safe, lots of crazy drivers on the road over holidays.......I know we all do it already, but I am going to spend some of this Memorial Day weekend remembering our little ones who aren't with us. I am starting to come out of my dumps...and trying to focus on keeping/getting healthy in this wait before TTC. I may have to taper off on my new-found love of wine every night! Hmm.

Blessings....

Becky

[lilliput]

hey guys! presumably just about everyone is headed off for a fabulous long weekend. *sigh* I want a normal work schedule!

Amber - I did see your post -thanks! Seven days to go till u/s! I am getting really nervous. Just like you, my symptoms have diminished the last few days, except for being tired and like a bitch on wheels in the morning (my poor minions at work!). So today i was all freaked out, and told Dh that I thought the same thing was happening again and told him that if it did happen, that I would need to take a break from work, perhaps get a normal job. So ridiculous. I don't know why I all of a sudden got worried today. I think it's because my 1st u/s last time was at 6w1d, and they didn't see a h/b then, but were willing to wait a week or so to double check, so now I feel like here I am at 6w1d, and what if exactly the same thing is happening again! I know, you've been feeling the same thing. I was doing so great about not worrying, and now all of a sudden, here I am again! Grrrr.

Beth - I so want a Corona. You have no idea. I think it's the nice weather. Feels like summer and barbecues, which means a nice cool refreshing beer....I mean lemonade.....:) Hope you have a great weekend, and that your finger feels better!!

Becky - glad to hear you are feeling better. Sounds like a great plan to prepare your body for TTC. When I had my special massage last month and the therapist asked me what my goals for the massage were, and I told her about the m/c, and that we were going to try again, she was very supportive in my efforts to get my body ready. I loved the way she describe our bodies - she called them vessels. I know some folks might think that sounds weird, but I thought it was cool. It made me think of a vase full of flowers in fresh clean water, all happy and smelling beautiful.

Anyway. Glad to hear folks are sounding cheerful again! Must be the happy summer bug!! Hope you all have a faculous long weekend, and enjoy it!! Hugs all around!
Victoria

[girliegirl]

So what is everyone up to this weekend?? We are working on the parade homes, only 1 wk left! MIL is coming to town tommorrow for a few days to help with the decorating and making drapes. she is awesome!! Can't wait to see her. she is a ball of positive energy.

Beth, I have been thinking about you all day and wondering if you are pg!! I guess I want to obsessover someones 2ww!!

Victoria, sorry you had a panic moment today. DO you feel better now? YOu seem like you do a good job of calming yourself down. Just keep up with those positive thoughts. I am sure your baby is growing great right now. Probably growing some kidneys or a lung right now!! My Re today said the chances of a repeat m/c were actually pretty low and they are usually random. so that should make you feel a liitle better. That came from a top Re.

Amber, I definitely say PUT OUT. poor dh. I know you worry about the baby, but sex is the best thing for your realtionship right now and you can't hurt the baby. When I was pg I had bought a book called "hot mamas" or something like that. It was about keeping your sexuality and looking Hot through your pregnancy. good book.

Becky, I hope you have a great trip. It will probably do you guys alot of good to have some uninteruppted couple time. Where are yougoing?

[girliegirl]

By the way, I love tacos too. especially taco belll!! Also, I had the re apt today. went well. my fsh test came back 6.6. which I guess is in the "good category. I guess anything over 10 is bad so that means my egg reserve is still in good shape. and they gave me the s/a results and it was all good. so more testing for blood sugar, hormones exray of uterus, but I feel better so far. I have eggs and he has sperm. seems like a good match!

[girliegirl]

Hi girls, Just wanted to say Hi and I hope everyone is having a great holiday weekend. We have worked our asses off! My body is killing me, we have so much to do in 6 days it will be a miracle if it all gets done. M.I.L. is here, which is a huge help, especially keeps dh going mentally.

Beth how are those temps? just wondering.

Thinking of you guys!

[AmberinGSO]

Hey everyone! How's the long weekend going?

Becky- I hope your weekend alone with DH has been peaceful and relaxing and that you guys go to spend time reflecting on your love for one another and you enjoyed good wine!

Beth- Still not sure about that chart. I check it everyday and I have come to the conclusion that you must have ovulated on cd 18 like last month and are now 6dpo. Any symptoms? I did give in and give some to DH. He was happy. Afterwards I went and dry heaved in the bathroom. Don't know why, but the motion made me sick! Sorry that was TMI. Anyway, I didn't spot or anything after so I hope it was ok. Hope you're having a relaxing weekend with tacos and corona. Drink one for me!

Victoria- Only five days to the ultrasound! I'm so excited for you and I can't wait to see the picture of your little bean. I too have freaked out a time or two since I will be getting my u/s around the same time as last time. I'm not exactly sure when mine passed last time because I didn't let go like everyone else, but I think it was somewhere around six weeks. I'm feeling pretty optimistic this time though because I'm nauseous this time and I didn't have that before. We will both feel so much better after our u/s. Anyway, I hope you found some time to relax this weekend!

Girlie- I'll have to look into that book. I'm not sure how hot I'm going to feel though. I'm already feeling snug in my pants. I guess I better get all the sex I can in with DH before I become a mastadon. How's the preparation for the parade of homes going? Good that your mil is coming and you're happy about it. Mine gets to me sometimes because she is SOOOOO stingy.

As for me DH has been away all weekend for work and won't be back until tomorrow. I CANNOT wait until we move into our new house in July so I don't have to be alone anymore like this. I have literally slept the entire weekend though. I'm not kidding. I've slept like 60 of the last 72 hours! Well maybe not that much, but close!

TTC, sweet, and Mickey- Hope you're doing well.
TTC- AF? No AF?

Hugs to all!

[Gwensmom]

Oh my. I have eaten and eaten and eaten this weekend. But what fun it has been!

DH and I spent last Friday night in this quiant historic bay-front hotel along the Oregon Coast in a tiny town called Wheeler (threw that in in case Beth has been there). The hotel was gorgeous and the giant claw-foot tub decadent!!! Neither one of us had even enjoyed a king size bed...and we changed that quickly! :D It was a great time, a great way to celebrate the past 5 years and appreciate the journey it has been. Of course, we reflected a lot on the past year and the trials we have gone through, we talked about Gwen a lot, and this past pregnancy loss. It wasn't a sad time though, surprisingly...we both were at good places emotionally and were able to reflect on where we are today and how our children have shaped us. It was good.

Now we are at my parent's home, DH is out golfing with my dad and brother and I sit here while our foster son "rests"...our word for the dreaded NAP! When he wakes we are going to make rice crispie treats - oh boy! Anyhow, a good weekend is such a good thing...and I am very thankful to be in this place emotionally to be able to write you guys about it. Hopefully my good vibes are contagious and you all are enjoying your holiday too.

Girlie - You are working so hard! How exciting to be able to see the fruits of your labor though! I love projects that have something to show for them at the end. With how hard you guys are working, I KNOW you are going to get it all completed! You are earning some serious massage time here!!!! Not to mention some serious bding! Anyhow, congrats on getting so close to finishing this project with your DH. Good news with the test results...you are right, with your good eggs DH's good spermies....you have a nice combo just waiting to come together!!!

Beth - I checked out your chart and I am still baffled. Hopefully this new upswing in your temps continues! Sorry things don't look clear-cut this month...but it seems like often when the chart isn't text-book perfect, that is when it is a pg chart. I am hoping and praying that is your case dear! Are you guys keeping your bases covered and continuing to bd? I would keep at it as long as you can just to be sure to seal the deal. I am just having some TTC envy though...so the thought of you being able to TTC now makes me want you to go for it more and more! I know, WEIRD. Don't mind me. :)

Victoria - At the beach yesterday there were this little ceramic pots with lids that were designed to be filled with beer and then placed out in the garden to trap and kill slugs and snails. I would have bought a few but they were $$ and I thought I could fashion something on my own. DH is actually the one who spied them, so now he doesn't think your advice is crazy :) It is so totally normal for you to be anxious with this pregnacy....Our minds are so powerful, and your mind is probably trying to protect you from the pain you recently experienced with you loss. I know I went though this when pg again after Gwen. I wasn't able to get as excited and definitely wasn't as care-free about the pg...I also would always stop myself from thinking too far ahead into the pg......I believe that there WILL come a point when you will feel at peace. It may come soon, after your U/S shows a healthy growing little bean in your tummy...or the peace may come later. I pray for you that your peace comes soon, so that you will be able to relax and enjoy this experience!

TTC - How are you? Did you get your camera yet? Hope you check in soon. Miss ya.

Amber - I wasn't sure if I should share this with you...but I decided you asked for input about bding...so here it goes. When pg with Gwen, DH and I didn't change our bding habits and we didn't have any problems. I lost her at 21 weeks so I never got big, but up until then our sex life was normal. Now, this past time I was pg, DH and I did the same. I have never been told by my ob to aviod sex, so we just kept at it....well, we bd the morning of the day I started spotting and then went on to miscarry the next day. The u/s revealed that the baby had stopped developing 2 weeks prior...so in my heart I know that bding really wasn't the reason for our loss...it still was hard to have the spotting come on in direct correlation to our bding. I don't mean to write this and make you avoid bding...I just wanted to share my experience. Sorry if this is TMI, but the morning we had sex and then I started spotting it wasn't very gentle if you know what I mean. Hmm...no pain on my part, but we had a lot of fun. My DH would FREAK if he knew I was writing this....Anyhow, I have now decided that when I am blessed to be pg again, we will continue to bd, however in a more civilized manner! :o

Now to switch gears...I better go get FS up and into a sticky mess with the rice crispies! I love eating them...so more food coming my way soon.

Blessings to you ladies. Thanks for being YOU.

Becky

[seeking]

Hi girls,

I hope you don't mind me jumping in but I just wanted to let Becky know that I sent her a message but the site kept doing funny things so could you please let me know if you recieved it or not;) . Thanks girls:) :) :)

[lilliput]

Hey girls!

Just thought I'd check in quickly before we head to work today. DH sleeps in on Mondays, and we only took one car home last night, so I'm here too. Since FedEx doesn't run today, there is no packing and shipping work (my job too) this AM, so I got to sleep in too!

Becky - so glad you had such a wonderful weekend!! That sounds like just a really special time with your DH, and a great way to begin looking to the future. Really wonderful, and you both deserved it! I have seen those fancy ceramic things too, but you can use just about anything and it will work, as long as they can get in there! So DH didn't believe me that the slugs are alcoholics?? It is pretty weird actually, if you think about it....

Beth - hope you had a great weekend too! I can't make heads or tails of your chart either.....sorry.... but just like Becky said, it seems the funky charts often reveal BFPs. So who knows?

Amber - That sounds like a nice relaxing weekend! I meant to come home early from work yesterday to get some stuff done around the house, but we had friends visit us at the farm, so I didn't have much down time. It was fun though. One of them is 8 weeks pg, but I haven't told anyone that we are pg yet, so I couldn't commiserate with her....oh well. Next time!

Girlie - almost there with the parade of homes!!! Glad to hear that MIL is able to help out by keeping DH focused. I'm like Amber - I like my MIL but we are kinda different people, so sometimes it's a wee bit tough to be around her for toooooo long. You are very fortunate! Got our tiler's bill....needless to say DH is going to haggle.....it took him 40 hours to do our wee little 50sqft bathroom! It's not like we did anything fancy or anything! So our whole bill was twice what we had been quoted.....DH is not amused. I just want to get the bloody thing done. Oh, and glad to hear that you've got eggs and DH's swimmers are AOK! That is great news!

We had gorgeous weather this weekend. It is like summer! Tomorrow we head to central Vermont to look at a house that our architect and his building crew are working on, hopefully for some new ideas for our project. His first run of floor plans was not what we were looking for, so we shall see how the second run goes. It's tricky! But we are having a good time with it so far. Ask me again next year when we actually start building!

Glad everyone has had a great weekend! I hear DH stirring, so I think we are off to work soon! Hugs all around!
Victoria

[AmberinGSO]

I had some spotting tonight. It wasn't a lot. It was light brown, but I just can't get it out of my head that this pregnancy isn't gonna go. I'm going to call the doctor in the morning and demand an u/s. I just have this horrible feeling that history is going to repeat itself and I'm going to be told I'm sorry again. I've been trying to relax and take it easy, but lying in bed all I can think of are horrible things. At a time like this I should turn to my faith and instead I find myself challenging it and questioning it. Questioning a world where babies are born to crack addicted mothers who don't want them everyday and yet there are so many deserving women on this site who suffer through m/c after m/c or never become pregnant at all.
Sorry you guys. I know this post is just horrible, but I'm just feeling doomed and I'm afraid. If I lose this baby I know I am going to just really go over the edge. I can't believe there's five and half hours between now and the time the doctor's office opens.
Thanks for listening.

[AmberinGSO]

Well, I have an u/s at 1. I feel so bad because DH tried to comfort me when I was crying last night and I kind of blew him off. I always feel like these sorts of things are only felt by me. I had a hard time with my m/c in December allowing him to grieve with me because I felt like I was the only one in the world who felt the pain and it was almost like I felt I was the only one who had a right to. I know that isn't true and it's not right to feel that way. Anyway, I went into the living room a little while ago to find DH crying hard. It's very hard for me to see him like that and I immediately put on my hard ass face and told him we didn't know anything yet and there was no reason to get worked up. He wanted to hold me and I let him for a minute or two, but I don't know what's wrong with me. I just want to be alone. Isn't that horrible? I went into the other room and cried alone and then I heard him in the bathroom getting sick! Ugh! He's so upset. I've never seen him like this.

I know this may seem ridiculous. It's just spotting, but suddenly I am right back there in December reliving everything. I will let you guys know what happens...thanks for listening.

[MrsBritney]

ok ladies. I know it has been a few days since my last post.. :(
But I have been "Busy"... and also frantically trying to get my sister prepared for her big summer in New York. I am going to be a wreck all day until I know that she has made it through all of the plane trips.. and the shuttle ride.. and the cap ride to her destination.. *sigh* She might be a big girl.. but she will always be my little sister.. and knowing that SHE is nervous, makes me VERY nervous.. I am just praying that God watches over her and she makes it where she needs to be safely.

Lilli - So... how are the pg symptoms coming? You mentioned that you feel them on and off.. and I was just wondering if you were having any m/s and how things in that area are going.. ;) by the way, I got home from work Saturday night and had plenty of Cornonas ... so I had a good time.. but Ididn't hang out in my hammock at all.. I was trying to hang out with my sis as much as possible.. so I just did that instead.. I can hit the hammock this weekend, I think!

Girlie - if you check out my chart... you will see that it is just weird.. my temps just keep going down.. isn't that strange? So I am 100% sure that I am NOT pg.. but I am also 100% sure that my cycle is no longer "normal" like I thought.. I will get more into that in a few minutes... Glad to hear that your fsh came back at a good level!! Things like that are ALWAYS good to hear.. I can't wait till you are actively ttc again.. and that way I can obsess over YOUR chart! HA!

Gwensmom - hey there! Sounds like your weekend was a complete success! That sounds FAB!! My chart is definitely not perfect this time around... I have never been all that regular.. but I thought that it had changed after my first "perfect" cycle last time.. but I guess I was wrong.. oh well.. whatever happens happens.. I am not too worried about it now.. but I did get some good BDing in over the weekend... :) hee hee. I am so glad that you and DH were able to celebrate your 5 years.. even with reflecting on what should have been right now.. but I know that it will all work out.. and it is great that you guys took the time to just be together and be happy.. And dont worry. .you will get to TTC very soon.. Just be patient!!
Amber - I am SO glad that you gave it up to your DH.. I can't believe that it made you sick tho.. that is totally weird.. it could also have to do with the stress it was causing you about whether or not you should give it up... but just make sure to do what makes you the most comfortable..
You can keep checkin my chart.. but I think that it is going to be a while before we see a BFP for me.. *shrug*
I am so sorry that you are all stressed out about the spotting.. but you said it was just light brown.. and not very much.. my thoughts are that it is just a bit of blood from your cervix being so tender, and the fact that you had sex.. I know you are going to worry anyways.. no matter what I say.. however, just try and relax and stay calm until the doctor tells you what he/she sees on the U/S... ok? Getting all worked up and crying alot is only going to put you under more stress and make it all worse..
That is sad about your DH.. I am sure he is just as upset as you are.. but remember.. you guys are in this together now.. you are married.. and you should try to let him in a little more!! having him there will make things easier on you.. I totally understand the feeling of wanting to be alone.. I did it too.. when I found out that I was for sure going to miscarry.. I kept it to myself for a night just so that DH could have one more night of baby bliss.. and just so that I could have a night to myself to grieve alone.. So I definitely understand wantin to be alone.. but after I told him, it was so much nicer to know that someone else was going thru all of this with me, rather than my having to go it all alone...
So just remember that he is going thru it with you.. and it is his baby too... hopefully you can find somehting to do until your appt at 1... try and sleep.. or just do something to keep yourself REALLY busy.. like cleaning.. or whatever.
But whatever you do.. please be sure to keep us all posted.. we are all thinking of you.. and praying for you and your baby.. and your DH!! We love you!!

As for me.. I know by now you have probably all clicked on my little tracker and checked out my chart.. it is MESSED up.. isn't it? I just have a feeling that this is either an anovulatory cycle.. or I am having one of my really long like 50 day cycles.. I used to be VERY irregular.. like going sometimes 3 months at a time without having a period.. I thought that had changed after I got my first period after the miscarriage.. but I guess I am still going to have some irregular cycles.. huh? I would have a regular cycle.. and then a longer one.. and then a regular one.. and then a REALLY long one.. and I am sure a lot of it has to do with the amount of stress I have been under what with finding out about losing my job.. and being worried about my sister.. and having some money worries the last month or so.. but I am sure that in the end it will all work out.
I am kind of already tiring of the TTC thing.. I would just rather not obsess over it.. and kinda just let things happen like last time.. it is not fair to DH or myself to focus all of our time and energy on figuring out what days we should BD.. and it is making me kinda grouchy.. and also making me not enjoy it as much.. So I think that this is my last cycle TTC... at least the way we have been doing it now..
I am still going to chart.. but I am just not going to scrutinize everything.. and obsess over whether I "missed my window" or not.. if I think, or know, that I am ovulating.. I will try and BD on those days.. but I am not goin to do it if I dont feel like it.. and I am definitely not going to force DH to do it if he is too tired too... so.. Thanks for being there for me girls.. but this TTC train has rolled into the station and is taking a rest for a bit.. I just can't do it anymore.. too much stress..
However, I am still going to post.. and hope..because.. well.. one never knows! :) right?

[AmberinGSO]

Beth- THanks for trying to cheer me up. If this pregnancy turns out to be ok for now DH and I will definitely NOT be having any sex for a while. Though I don't think this spotting is a result of sex because we only did it once on Friday morning and it was very gentle.
I had a little more spotting this morning. Right now it is ony when I wipe and I mostly have to go searching for it, in other words, I have to cram the tissue up there. It is still a rusty brown color (sorry tmi). No red yet, so that is good I guess. I'm trying to stay calm, but I just keep thinking about that month after the m/c and how life lost all meaning for me. I take loss very hard. I've always been something of an emotional freak. I just can't fathom going back to that. I will let you girls no what the doctor finds. She didn't say much on the phone. She just asked what color and how much blood there was and if I was experiencing any cramping.
I know that I've read that some people bleed when it would have been time for their period. I assumed that was referring to your first missed AF. Do you guys think this applies to your second missed AF as well? Because it is about time for the second missed one for me and my face broke out in zits and I have diarrhea (sorry tmi) like I normally would for an AF. That's probably not a good sign huh? UGH! Sorry ladies I need to just go somewhere else I am a total bummer!

[MrsBritney]

Hey Amber.. :)
HUG.
I know that nothing I can say will make you feel better... because I have been there in that place.. I just wanted to try my best.. I totally understand not wanting to have sex too.. I didn't have sex with DH for 4 weeks after I found out I was pregnant.. I told him I wanted to wait till after the ultrasound to do it.. so he waited quite a while for me to have sex with him again.. your DH will definitely understand.. so dont worry about him..
I take loss very hard too.. and I sometimes dont want anyone else to try and comfort me... but lucky for me, I have the worlds best family and friends and everyone was right there for me when I needed it the most..
If you need to come here and vent to me.. then vent away.. I will be here all day, and if this is what you need to do to pass the time until the US.. then I want you to do it..I dont know much about whether or not you should be experiencing these things when it was time for your second AF.. I honestly dont know.. but any AF signs are also signs of pregnancy.. so I guess I just can't say much on that subject..
Are you having any cramping? Or just the spotting?
Dont go somewhere else.. keep it here.. and I will talk you through it..
OK?

[girliegirl]

Hi girls, I only have like 2 seconds, it is crazy around here, there is soo much to do, I will try to check in later but I had to make a few quick comments.


Amber- I am soso sorry you are going through this, I am sure everything is fine, but I can only imagine your panic. and poor dh. I feel so bad for him. I will check back soon to hear how the us went. I am going to say a prayer for you, dh and your baby. Just try to focus on everything being good. visualize a perfect healthy baby growing iside of you. I will check in later.

Beth- your cycle is crazy this month. I don't know what to think. makes you think not pg, but it isn't over yet and temp charts aren't the end all be all. so who knows, its not exact science. I am cycle day 7 and cp is moving up and getting softer so O chould be on its way.

I will check inlater guys.

[Gwensmom]

Amber, I am so very sorry you and DH are having to go through all of this stress. I am praying for you and for good news at your appointment. We are all thinking of you and sending you lots of love and support. It is so natural for you to need time to yourself...I know you and DH will seek support from each other when you both are ready. Blessings and prayers.

[AmberinGSO]

Oh ladies thank you so much for all of your prayers! You guys must have some pull with the big guy because my little one is ok! We got to see a little heart beating away! The baby is measuring 6w4d and I thought I was 7w6d, but as you all might remember I had the most whacked out cycle ever when I got my bfp and I definitely could have ovulated later. Also, ultrasounds aren't an exact science. Maybe she measured a little wrong. Anyway, the doctor wasn't concerned about the baby being small so I am trying not to be either. She said once you see a good strong beating heart like mine the chance of miscarriage goes down to 3%. So, I will relax a little now. They couldn't find a reason for the spotting, but it has stopped now and she said it was very minimal.
Thanks so much to all of you. I would just lose it without you! I will write personals later. I didn't get much of any sleep last night and I need a nap bad! I love you guys!

[Gwensmom]

Oh Amber. I am so relieved for you and DH!!! Enjoy that nap and enjoy those happy dreams of your healthy little one! :) Blessings.

[AmberinGSO]

Hey girls I just wanted to drop in and post the link to my babe! So, here she is! It's the photogenic little creature between the two crosses!
I will write you all big long personals tomorrow! For now I have got to get off to bed! Hugs to all!

[MrsBritney]

Oh Amber - I just KNEW that every thing was ok1! I was praying for you and your little one.. you have to carry on with her..
wait.. weird how we are calling her a HER.. isn't it? I guess I just assumed it was a her.. and then you said it too!! HAH! How cute.
That picture just SO perfect.. it gives me hope that I, too, someday might have a picture like that to show off...
Ahhh.. I am so jealous.. but not like the mean jealousy that I have felt in the past.. just jealous because you are so lucky.. and I am touched by the little pic... :)
Now where are those WEDDING PHOTOS:?!!

HUGS

beth

[girliegirl]

Amber, that is the cutest 6w4d baby I have ever seen!! So happy everything is o.k.!! Can you relax a little now? I hope so. how is dh?

Beth,I clicked your ticker. whats up with temps?? isn't it heading back up? Is it a crazy looking bbt chart or going to become one of those triphasic charts? Do you feel anything? I am practicing my obsessing. I started the opk's today, my body is giving off O signs, but I only got a faint line today. I hope I don'y O for a few days. dh is stressed to the max and we are both exhausted so I know getting any bd in will be a stretch.

[girliegirl]

Hi Becky, sounds like a nice weekend! How is the foster son doing? is his behavior any better? How are you feeling?

Victoria, How is it going? what came of the tile guy's bill? My dh haggles over bills all the time, it usually works!

WHere have ttc, Jennifer and Mickey been??

[girliegirl]

Well, mil just left. it was great having her here. she worked her butt off! I hated to see her go, but its a 5 hr. drive and she was ready to be home. We are down to 3 days until the parade!! It is crazy, but I think we may pull it off. I am focusing on getting the condo done becasue he needs to have that open and sell those. OUr house will be great to have open because I told you I had my friend, the gay decorator decorate the house and it looks like something out of a magazine. NOt trying to brag, but he did such an awesome job I love it. ANd my other friend just got started in decorative painting so she did some cool techniques all over the house. Anyways I am excited about getting it done and getting the whole town to come through! I have been doing some live radio interviews and ads, and everyone is calling saying they heard them so I hope it brings alot of people out to see the houses. My brother said his friend said I was the paris hilton of our city!! Too funny!

It will be a miracle if we get in bding in this week when I am O.

[MrsBritney]

Hey there Girlie!
I KNOW!! My chart is all messed up.. this must be one of my long ones I guess!! I Thought that I o'd a couple of times, but apparently I was wrong because my temps stayed below the coverline this entire time. .I assume I will o in the coming weeks.. and then my luteal phase will start and I will finish out my cycle.. but I dont know what is going on!!
That is cool that the parade of homes is almost ready..
if you are the Paris Hilton of your town... then you better get checked for herpes! HAHHA .. :) (just kidding.. but seriously, she is nasty)

[AmberinGSO]

Good morning ladies!
It's been pretty quiet around here for a few days! I'm really getting worried about ttc and mickey! Haven't seen them in what seems like forever. I hope you ladies are ok and had a pleasant long weekend!

Becky- Thanks for thinking of me and my little one. It really means a lot to me that I have you ladies here to support me and if something bad does happen I know I won't have to go through it alone. By the way, I've been thinking about rice crispie treats ever since you said that like a week ago. Maybe I should go get some of those.

Beth- I hope AF arrives on time if she is going to and you don't have a crazy cycle. I'm still not sure if you ovulated or not. I mean you do have that big dip, but like you said all your temps are in the 97 range so it's kind of hard to tell anything.

Girlie- Ok this is going to make me sound really stupid, but I'm a youngun so I haven't learned a lot about homes yet so what exactly is a parade of homes? At first I thought maybe you were a realtor and it was like an open house thing and then I thought maybe it was like if you have a really nice house you show it off to people...Ok I'm making myself look like an idiot right now I know! I'm jealous that you have such an awesome MIL that you want around. Mine isn't terrible. I mean she is nice enough. She is just very self involved and favors my SIL over DH.

As for me, my body is a complete mystery at all times of the day and night. I have the weirdest discharge today (sorry tmi) I mean I have never seen anything like it and there seems to be a lot of it. I don't know if I should be concerned or not because I have never seen anything of it's consistency. Ok this may get too gross for some, it's almost like what the discharge is like when you have a yeast infection but it is brown and more gritty than creamy. Any input if you had the stomach to read that! Sorry for the gross factor!

Hope you all have a wonderful day! The weather is beautiful here.

[MrsBritney]

Hey Amber - Thanks for the update..
I am wondering.. maybe you have bacterial vaginosis?? It is very common in pregnant woman, and not harmful.. but can be uncomfortable and cause unwarrented worry.. maybe check it out online and see if that is what you are seeing???
As for me. .I just hope that AF shows up soon.. I can tell that this is not a regular cycle.. and I either didn't ovulate, or I am going to ovulate really late.. I have no clue what is going on.. I suppose I will just have to wait and see.. I hope I am not a late ovulator.. because that is high risk for early miscarriages.. I guess only time will tell .. especially because every few cycles are usually normal for me.. who knows..
I am weird..
but honestly, I am not that worried about it.. once I decided not to stress about it anymore.. I have stopped obsessing about it.. I just figure that whatever happens is in God's hands and I will take whatever He dishes out!

I hope you are feeling ok.. and the ms isn't getting too bad...
Let me know about the discharge. .I am sure it is nothing much to worry about!

Beth

[AmberinGSO]

Beth- Thanks for the input on my situation. I looked BV up and it wasn't that though. Darn. It seems to have subsided some so maybe it's just one of those weird pregnancy things. I'm not gonna worry about it too much as it wasn't the consistency of blood and like I said it was brown so it's probably just some weird discharge.
I never heard that ovulating late can cause early m/c. I thought a shortened luteal phase could do that. I am not entirely sure though. Maybe this will just be a fluke anovulatory cycle and you will get AF in a day or two and go on to have a normal cycle next time. I think you have a great attitude about it though. What is your email address I will send you the slideshow on Kodak that I have put together!

[MrsBritney]

In reference to the late ovulation thing I posted earlier.. :)

According to several medical references:

When is ovulation considered too late?
Ovulation normally happens from CD 10 to CD 21. Ovulation that happens regularly after CD 21 is not considered normal. That does not mean you cannot get pregnant with late ovulation. Women get pregnant all the time even when they ovulate late. But your chances of getting pregnant are decreased significantly when you ovulate late. This is for several reasons:
*The lining of the uterus is too old for implantation.
*The egg is considered not as good as when ovulation happens earlier.
When ovulation happens late you ovulate less often over time, further decreasing your chances of conceiving.

So, in essence, late ovulation can be a major problem. If the egg is too old, it can be fertilized, but then it will not grow correctly, and the egg will perish, thus ending in a miscarriage... :( If the lining is too old, then the egg can not implant correctly.. also ending in a miscarriage.. how sad is that?

Apparently that is where clomid comes in as a first step. you start taking it on like day 5 of your cycle, and it helps you to ovulate earlier, and they say that 80% of all women on clomid will get pregnant within the first 3 months.
So I figure, if next cycle is as messed up as this cycle.. I am going in to the doc to find out why, and what can be done about it.. :)
A short luteal phase is also a bad thing.. so hopefully this is just a weird cycle for me.. and not something bad..but if so.. I am willing to take the next step soon.. before I lose my awesome insurance!
I am glad you dont have BV.. I am sure it is nothing.. just your body changing.. but make sure to note that, the next time you go into the doctor.. they like to know about any weird changes that are going on!! Ok?

How ar eyou feeling today?

OK.. I will send you a private message with my email in it! :) I am excited for pics of the wedding!! WOO HOO!!

[Gwensmom]

Okay, time to get some advice from you wise women....I think I may be drinking too much. It is so weird for me to write that, but I am getting a little concerned and last night DH told me he is getting concerned too. I never have been much of a drinker. When we lost Gwen, I stayed away from all alcohol intentionally...as I didn't want to numb my sadness but I wanted to experience the loss fully. Well, this time around I haven't done that. I think I have consumed some alcohol EVERY day/night since the m/c. I am drinking on average 2 large glasses of wine a night, and sometimes I have that first glass as early as 3:00 pm. Maybe I watch too much Oprah, but I know this isn't normal for me...DH and I talked about it and I said I would stop altogether....but I don't know that I want to. Hmm. Ever since my doctor said wait 3 months I have increased consumption too...like, why aviod the stuff since I can't have what I really want. I would like your honest opinion...which I know I get anyways.


Beth - Thanks for the input about late ovulation.....this last pg I ovulated CD 20...wonder if I should talk to my doctor about that? Would you?

Amber - I ate SO many rice crispie treats! :eek: It was so bad I finally threw the rest away since I had NO will power. DFS didn't notice...so that was good. He had such a great sticky time making them. If your stomach is telling you to make some, then listen! :) Don't send any my way though!

Girlie - So good to hear that you guys are getting so much done. Would you be able to post pics of the houses? I would love to see what you guys have done!

Victoria - How are you doing? Hope your rains have let up and you are able to get out in your garden....did DH haggle the tile guy?? My DH is horrible at that!! We drive ancient cars and I am so scared of when we have to break down and get a new one.....we are both total suckers! Oh well, at least we are nice people...some sleazy car salesman will get a nice commission! On a random note, DH and I are addicted to this new show on A&E - King of Cars. Totally cheesy, but we hope it will help us to know how to haggle a car deal :) We need to get out more!

Okay, back to work I go. I am NOT buying more wine on my way home...I am NOT!

[girliegirl]

Hi everyone!

Beth, I think you need to start checking cp and cm. This is the best indicator of O for me. especially cp. It definitely moves up gets real mushy and sometimes opens a little. I always know when O is on its way because my cervix starts to soften and move up. I don't know what to make of your cycle this month. Thats ehy I don't like temps, it seems like it can confuse you. Do you have long cycles normally?

Amber, maybe the discharge stuff is left over from when you spotted or had a pelvic? pg discharge can be kind of creamy and then add a little left over brown from spotting and that could be what it is.

As for parade of homes, it is when the builders enter there new homes they have built and people go around and tour them. Its kind of a big deal here. everyone and their brother wants to tour the new homes.Dh is a developer and builder. I am a realtor. but i end up helping him a ton. he is well known in this area for building really nice homes and he go nuts on the decorating, with the help of his mom. so his homes are the ones everyone wants to go see. so the pressure is on. and we have 3 in the parade this yr. One happens to be our house, one model home and one model condo. its crazy trying to get all of these complete and decorated, furnished and cleaned!!! Crazy!!
It opens sat at noon. we still have alot to do but I am assuming it will get done. I also incorporate my business and get some exposure for my company. so my radio interview talks about my real estate co. and his building.

[girliegirl]

Becky, I don't know what to say about the drinking. I am sure it is one of those things that can be a slippery slope. so I would be careful. I am sure you are trying to numb the pain that you are feeling right now, but unfortunaltely you need to allow yourself the time to grieve.which is hard to do I know. YOu just want to feel better now. I think waiting 3 mos. would be really hard for me. did the dr. mention doing any testing of your hormones or anything>? They can check for certain antibodies etc... to see if that is why you m/c. For me it helped alot to have those tests. I only have gottton 2 done, but so far everything is good and i am feeling more positive about it. when things slow down i will get the other tests done. have you thought about doing that? then you wont have all the wonder why's and what ifs. if something is wrong most things are a quick fix. let me know what you think about that.

[girliegirl]

Also amber I want to see the slide show....... I can email you our wedding photos from the little white wedding chapel in vegas. very fun cheesy pics complete with the plastic horse!!

[MrsBritney]

Hi ladies - I feel like we have been losing people on this thread almost on a daily basis!!
Where is TTCinNC? Where is Lilli? Where is EVERYONE?!?!?

OK.. whatever -

Gwensmom - About the drinking.. :) You know.. I stayed away from alcohol for a couple of weeks after the miscarriage mostly because I wanted to make sure not to just make everything go away.. and I am not a weekly or nightly drinker.. but ever since the 4th week after my mc, I have been drinking EVERY single weekend.. and I didn't drink for a long time before the pregnancy either.. so I think I am doing it more as a "well, when I get Pg, I wont be able to do this for a long time, at least 9 months. .and then who KNOWS how long afterwards, so I Am getting in my licks now.." sort of thing..
and also.. so that I have something to look forward to on the weekend too.. ya know?
I dont know if I would go as far as saying you have a drinking problem.. but if it is totally not you.. and you have changed the way you work you life AROUND the drinking.. then yea, I would quit, or at least try and slow down..
You know.. keep it strictly to weekends..?? But it is entirely up to you.. if you dont want to quit, then it is going to make you want it more when other people "Force" you to quit.. just quit for the right reasons.. and try not to use it as a drug to keep yourself sane..
Having a glass of wine at night to help yourself sleep is one thing.. having 2-5 glasses at night because you just want to drink, is a whole other thing.. ya know?
BUt again, it is entirely up to you.. and I dont judge! :)

As for the ovulation thing... if you o on the 20 day of your cycle on a regular basis.. I would say that that is probably not something to worry about, according to what I have been reading.. they say anything over 22 days is something to look at... as for me.. I will have one cycle where I 0 on the 16th or 18 day of my cycle.. and then 2 cycles where I either dont O at all, or I O like day 35 or something like that, and they say that the egg could be too old to grow and fertilize properly.
I am going to wait this cycle out, and then call my doctor and see what she says. I have been monitoring my Cervical mucus and I had watery and Eggwhite a couple of days.. but the temps did not coincide with that.. unlike my last cycle, where the temps did JUST what they were supposed to.. so I have a feeling that this is going to be one of my long cycles.
I went off of BCP last June.. and between June and December I only had 2 periods.. one in august, and one in October.. so I am starting to think that I am right about this late ovulation thing.. hrn.. I dont know what to do about it..
I dont know how to check my cervial position.. it totally grosses me out to have my finger stuck up there (sorry.. but it does!!! LOL) and so I cant do it long enough to figure out where the hell my cervix is.. let ALONE To be able to tell if it is soft or hard or open or closed!!!! So I just cant do it..
Girlie - you wanna come over here and do it for me? :) hee hee

But seriously.. I am thinking that I do have this late ovulation thing.. which means that my follicular phase is all off and my eggs are too old to properly grow..
My lining seems ok.. because it attached just fine last time and the sack grew like no ones business.. I am going to keep trying this cycle.. and see what we get.. I know that DH wants to BD tonite.. so since I got a rain check yesterday (I was too tireD) I promised today! :) haha...
Anyhow.. this is getting really long.. but let me know what you guys think.. and if you think I should go ahead and talk to my doc as soon as this cycle is over about getting me on O meds.. :P

Beth

[girliegirl]

Hi everyone!! Where is everyone? what happened to our awesome thread??

Beth, I still think you may have O. I also agree with you on the late ovulating thing. I didn't realize you didn;t have a period every month. I am sure your egg reserve is fine. You could have it tested. that is the day 3 test they do. I felt much better after I had mine done. I have been telling everyone I have the eggs of a 28 yr old! Not quite true but almost! At what point would you test? If your periods are crazy you wouldn't really know if you were late or not. do you feel anything?

I still have not got a + opk, but my cp and cm are saying fertile. however we bd on day 11, now its day 13 and we are both exhausted especially him, so I don't see much happening this month. I am not going to push him when he is so exhausted. did I tell you he has lost 20 lbs?? he is now 6'1" and like 153. poor dh! but I want sex dammit. I told him we need a pool boy!!

HOw is work, beth, anything new on a new job? any thoughts on what you want to do?

We got the 2 houses about done. I have color on my hair, then after i shower we have to go back do a few hrs. of work, then the parade starts at 12. All our besst friends came and helped, there were 7 of us and we were there til midnight! Plus dh had guys there, laying sod, PAVING the road, washing windows, painting, you name it. it was crazy!! I told him i was reallt really proud of him. no one else could pull that off in that short of time.

[girliegirl]

Becky, how are things going? didn't see you yesterday.

[girliegirl]

victoria, I am starting to worry about you, havent seen you in days. did you have your apt? I hope everything is going good. let us know so we don't worry!

[lilliput]

Hey girls!! Sorry for being MIA. We have been kind of busy, and I stopped taking the laptop to work so I would finish earlier and get home sooner....

We have a critter with a h/b! U/S yesterday was a success. I'm measuring 7w1d around about, which is right on with my LMP, and the h/b, was "around" 150 bpm, so everything looks good. I kept my eyes closed and wouldn't look until the midwife said she saw a viable pg...go figure! It was really weird, I have to say, this little fluttering thing on the screen. We are both pretty psyched though, and getting nervous about the whole parenting thing already. But in a good way! We went out for dinner afterwards, as well as grocery shopping. I wanted to buy all these horrible nasty frozen dinners and junk food and DH wouldn't let me, even though he kept SAYING I could have what ever I want! Silly man. In the end I bought pickles, baked beans, mac and cheese, hummus, and then normal food. I ate almost the WHOLE jar of pickles for breakfast this morning :rolleyes:! And some of the hummus! In addition to my regular oatmeal...ewww.

Girlie - Thanks for asking about me! Well, DH has decided not to haggle. We need the GC for work done at the farm (siding a huge building and building a new barn), but he has decided to tell him that while we are going to pay the bill (which was TWICE the estimate), that we are never going to use his tiler again (especially in our new house), and that he needs to have a long talk with this guy about his speed, or lack thereof. My SIL chalks his slow rate of tiling to being stoned all the time.... could be! How did the parade of homes go?? Does DH get some serious pampering for getting all that accomplished? It sounds like you had quite a crew working!

Beth - I hope that if you are not pg, that AF appears for you soon so you are able to put the weird cycle behind you! I know there are herbal teas out there that are intended for helping to regulate your cycles. I don't know if that might help if that is what it is....

Becky - Not sure what to tell you about the drinking. Until about 8 months ago, I was having at least one glass of wine a night with dinner. Some nights as many as 3 or 4, especially in the summer when family is visiting and there are a lot of BBQs and dinner parties and the like. Then I decided it was impairing our ability to conceive and that I wasn't sleeping as well (I kept waking up feeling tired and not rested, and i don't think it was just from working 70-80 hours a week). So i cut back quite a bit last fall. After the m/c, I was back to the way things were last summer, especially when we went on our vacation to Mexico this past March (no comment on the number of margaritas had over the course of one day ;)), but I knew we were going to get started again soon after that. So I cut back again in an effort to "cleanse" my system. I have had this conversation with my best friend quite often, since we both enjoy having wine while we cook or have dinner. We both agreed that it wasn't affecting our regular life patterns, and that we didn't "need" to have a drink to feel better or have a good time. While that may be considered an excuse by some, we felt that our consumption levels were OK. My problem is I like the taste of wine, not how it makes me feel. Now of course that is not an option, and I'll admit it, I do sometimes miss having a glass of wine with dinner, especially when everyone around me is having one. Does that mean I'm an alcoholic? I'm not convinced it does, since I don't feel I need it to have a good time. In your case, if your DH has expressed concern about your drinking, and you feel like you are drinking to make yourself feel better, then I would consider cutting back. For me, it was a matter of taking wine right out of the budget and putting something else in its place, like clothes. That worked great. I also started to think about preparing my body for pregnancy. Three months sounds like a long time, I know, but you will be surprised how quickly the time will pass, and wouldn't you like to have your body be as healthy as possible and ready to grow your baby? I looked at it that way, and that also made it easier for me to forgo my evening glass of red. I had tea instead. Not as tasty, but if I reminded myself why I was having the tea instead, it made it a lot easier. I hope that helps. If you find that you are having trouble cutting back on your own, you might need help. Thinking of you, and sending you a big hug!!

Amber - I've read on other threads that increased discharge is the norm. Not sure about the brown grit color though...:) How have you been feeling?

Well, I hope you are all having a great weekend! Will check in again soon!

[Gwensmom]

Hi ladies!

Finally the weekend. Even though last week was only a 4 day work week it felt so long to me. Thank you all for weighing in on my concern with my wine consumption. I appreciate all that you said and have cut back since writing. My family drinks a lot and I don't want to fall into an unhealthy pattern. I sure do miss my wine though! Its not that I am not EVER going to drink again, I just need to keep a better watch on it I think. After losing Gwen, I consciously made a decision to not drink anything as I knew I could fall into an unhealthy (for me) pattern. This time, I guess the pain was too great to be strong like that. My strength is coming back, and Victoria you are right...I need to get strong and healthy and ready to grow a baby again!

I have to run and supervise dfs...he is playing outside and I can't leave him for too long :)

I will write more later. Blessings!

Becky

[MrsBritney]

Ahhh.. my girls.
I have missed you! :)

Girlie - I can always count on you to be around even when no one else is!
Sorry I wasn't around yesterday or earlier today guys.. I napped and worked and worked.. and now I just have my first corona of the night and ate three.. yes THREE spicy chicken tacos.. and I have never felt better!
Ok.. I do feel A LITTLE "plump" today.. but other than that.. I feel good..
I had three men hit on me in the last week.. so that has really boosted my confidence lately.. I was feeling pretty down in the dumps "Frumpy".. and I KNOW you guys have felt that way from time to time!!Girlie- as for my egg reserve.. I am sure it is fine too.. but late ovulation can really be hard on the fertility attempts.
When an egg gets ready to be released.. if it is released too late, then it will be too old to be properly fertilized..so there is a higher chance of miscarriage.. :( sad.. but true.. I am sure I have not ovulated yet this cycle.. and since today is like CD31, I am calling my doc on Wednesday if AF has not shown, and I will see if I can get an appt to see her and start some meds to bring AF on.. and to get my cycle straight while I still have these phenomenal benefits. I am definitely not pregnant.. I have no symptoms. .and I even bought a test just to make my DH feel more comfy about my drinking.. and it was a BFN... and you know what. I wasn't that disapointed.. because I already knew it was not going to be positive..
So.. I am ready for the next steps.. I will call my obgyn this week and see what we can do from here. :) Oh yea, and I have a couple leads on a couple jobs that I could go for.. maybe business analyst or something.. IK will let you guys know more as I find out more!!! :) YAY!!!

Lillie - I am glad to hear that your little bean is doing awesome.. for some reason I keep calling your bean a HIM and Ambers a HER.. Isn't that weird? Strange to me too!! HAH!!
I am not pg.. but hopefully after getting ahold of my obgyn we can figure something out.. I am concerned. and I want this to happen sooner rather than later.. altho today I am really VERY much appreciating not only the fact that I am not pregnant.. but the fact tha tI am not a parent.. and dont have that kind of a responsibility right now.. especially since I have two Pugs.. and am dog sitting a beagle till the end of august.. and then JUST found out yesterday that we are taking in two rottweilers due to some circumstances beyond anyones control in my DHs family..
Hopefully only for a couple of months.. but I know that IW ould not be able to handle them all with a kid.. or while I was pregnant.. :
God works in mysterious ways.. no?

Anyhow..
Gwensmom.. I am glad you have cut back.. but just remember.. we dont judge you.. and I definitely dont think that you were an alcoholic.. you may have been self medicating.. but I think that is something we have all done at least once or twice in the past.. it is all good..

Keep us posted on how you are doing
OK.. I have to go..
things to do.. ( ok ok ok.. NOTHING to do.. just CORONAS to be HAD! And since *I* am not pregnant {hah Amber and lilli} I get to do that!!)

Love you guys

beth

[AmberinGSO]

Hi ladies! Sorry I haven't been around for a couple of days. I am having another visit with my family for the weekend!

Becky- Glad to hear you made the right decision for you about the wine. After my m/c I know I drank to self medicate. I eventually made the decision to see a psychiatrist about the loss and the first thing she did was ask about my alcohol consumption and when I told her she told me that was excessive and I would never heal from the loss if I continued to numb myself instead of cope with the pain. Not that that is what you are doing. A glass or two of wine a night doesn't sound that bad to me, but if it is unusual for YOU and DH is concerned than I think you made the right decision in cutting back a bit and like everyone else is saying it will just make your body a much more healthy and welcoming environment! Hope everything else is well for you!

Girlie- Hope the parade of homes was a success and a blast! I know you worked so hard for this and I bet it will all pay off! That's funny about the eggs of a 28 year old woman! It is relieving though when you find things out like that from the doctor. Narrows down the one million things women have to worry about!

Victoria- I have been feeling fine. The discharge is on and off and I really am not that concerned with it anymore. There's no blood or clots. So, I don't think it is a big problem. I have been feeling so sick all the time lately. We went to outback last night and I love that restaurant and I ate two bites of my food and turned my nose up at it. I feel like I am going to starve her! Even water grosses me out. I was so glad to hear that your u/s went well! Now maybe both of us can relax some. How have you been feeling?

Beth- I'm sorry about the strange cycle, but it seems like you have a positive attitude about it (as usual :)) and a plan of action. Maybe this is just a fluke cycle and you will go on to be regular again next month! Until then enjoy those coronas and tacos! Sounds like you are having a fantastic weekend! I cannot believe you are sitting that many dogs! Wow! Two rottweilers? I would be terrified. I'm scared of really big dogs. DH wanted to get a german shepherd at first and I was like no way! They terrify me. DH is 6'6" and he said he would look ridiculous walking a dog too small. You are sweet to take them in since no one else can at the moment though. Do you keep them all outside? Good to hear you have some new job opportunities! I am currently looking for a job. Hope I find one soon. No one will hire a chemist if they know they are pregnant! Funny about always referring to my babe as a her and Victoria's as a him. It will be interesting to see what we've got growin in there.

Anyway, I should go downstairs and join the family. I'm going car shopping today! Thank goodness!

TTC and Mickey??? Hope you're doing oK!

[Gwensmom]

Hi guys. It is an odd day in Oregon! It is like 75 and raining......so muggy. Really weird for here...I know those of you elsewhere that may be normal, but not in my Oregon! :) DH is outside re-doing one side of our fence and putting in a new gate. I have been pruning, but the rain forced me in. My FS is on a time-out in his room. Oh my, what a day he is having. He had such a good day yesterday he watched toons this morning...but when it was time to turn them off...tears and pouting! Hmm...not too fun. So, he has been in his room pouting most of the morning now. Oh well.

So, I think I ovulated three days ago...should I expect AF to return in the normal 2 weeks from then?? Or after a M/C is AF's return not very predictible. I don't even know if I ovulated for sure, but I hope I did since that would give me hope that my cycle is returning.

Amber - Hope you found yourself a nice new ride! We were starting to look for a minivan before the M/C, now that hunt is on hold. What kind of car do you want?

Beth - I love your attitude...just reading your posts puts me in a better mood. The fact that you are taking in those extra dogs and have such a good attitude about it tells me that you are going to be such a great mom someday! Sometimes I wonder if God is preparing us for our own kids by having us help out other people's kids...thus our FS......I want my own too though! I think you can learn a lot about yourself and your parenting skills though your pets......my girlfriends who are mothers think I am crazy when I relate my experiences with Bella (my dog) to their experiences with their children. But seriously, there are a lot of similarities! DH and I are reading the book Cesar's Way - all about dog training - Cesar is on Oprah a lot. Anyhow, it is really interesting.

Victoria - Had any more pickles lately? For me it was fast food burgers! Oh gross...I also couldn't get enough tomatoes. I hope you are feeling well!!!

Girlie - How did the tour of homes go? That is so nice that you have such great friends to come and help you guys out! Hope you guys are relaxing and enjoying some down time??? Is that possible? Give your DH some food, lost 20 LBS! Sign me up for that! :)

Okay, I better go check on FS. Wish me luck!!

Becky

[MrsBritney]

Hi there ladies. :)

Amber - Yea, I am really maintaining a much more positive attitude.. moreso than I thought I would, but I think I am just at peace knowing that it will happen for me.. when the timing is right! And that is ok with me.. especialy since I will be looking for a job soon, and who really wants to hire a pregnant lady? Come on now (I know.. sorry.. you are job hunting now too!)
As for the dogs.. everyone is getting a long ok.. the rotties are big, but they are just big pillows.. they dont do a whole lot.. and they need to lose some weight. Unfortunately, my little girl, Sofie, is totally scared of the girl rottie.. she runs away from her whenever she is around.. so I try to make sure that she feels safe no matter what.. I hope we dont have these dogs for too long.. hopefully by the end of the summer we will be down to just our two dogs! and oh no.. I dont keep aNY of our dogs outside.. that is just cruel here in AZ.. the temps are at 111 now.. besides.. my opinoin is that if you have a dog, you should treat them like family..
My pugs sleep with DH and I. :) As does the beagle.. not the rotties, they sleep on the floor..
I know some people dont agree with that assessment of having pets.. but I am a TOTAL animal lover and I love them too much to keep them outside... yes, they are spoiled!I can't wait to find out what you and Victoria are gestating inside your bellys..
I will just keep calling yours a her and hers a him! :) hee hee

Gwensmom - I am glad you cut down the drinking for the time being.. Dont worry, I had a couple for you over the weekend, as well as a couple for Amber and Victoria also.. hee hee! I am SO with you about comparing the things that we do for our dogs to the way people care for their kids.. it IS similar.. and maybe they are not little humans.. but they are important to us.. and I think that they way you care for your pets is a reflection of the way you would care for your kids.. and that is the truth..
As for taking in dogs who need someplace else to go.. yea, I would rather have them stay with us, than be hurt, or stuck with people who dont want them.. and dont know them or love them..
hopefully we wont have them too long.. but at least a couple months they will be with us.. it will definitely be interesting..
I hope that Sofie gets over her fear of Baby (the female rottie) and they can go on to be friends...

Anyhow.. I have work to do!! :)
Beth

[AmberinGSO]

Gwen- I think if you ovulated AF should return in 2 weeks or however long your normal luteal phase is. That's exciting that you are back on track and ready for AF! As for the car, I think I want a toyota corolla or a honda accord. I can't make up my mind. We will have to see what kind of deal we can get. DH and I have been arguing (not seriously) over who will get to drive the new car. I think I've earned the right since DH has taken over my car and I have spent 90% of my life stranded for the last four months. We shall see! Sorry for the strange weather. It is in the 90s and humid here today.

Beth- I would never leave my dog outside either, but my house is just way too small for five dogs. I wouldn't be able to care for them all inside. That is awesome of you to take them in! That would be sad if they ended up with people who didn't want them or worse at the pound! I'm terrified of rottweilers though! You're right. No one would want to hire a pregnant lady. That is why I'm scrambling for a job right now. No luck yet. It really is tricky when you are a chemist too. There are so many jobs you can't do due to solvent exposure or other types of things that aren't good to expose babies too. I hope this works out. If not I will be asking my old boss from my college summer job if I can work there. It's an italian restaurant and I would just be hosting and answering phones. I can't do that for the whole pregnancy obviously either, but once I start showing no pharmaceutical company in their right mind will take me on. I have faith God will work this out for me though. When are you going to call the doctor about the long cycle? Have you ever taken provera before to get going? If you have another cycle like this one maybe you could try clomid. I've seen tons of women on here have success from that. Then again, this cycle may be a fluke and you will probably go on to have a normal one next time!

As for me, I have a doctor's appointment today at 2. I'm a little nervous. I don't really know what they want to do. They have already taken a family histroy, done blood work, weighed me, and I just had an u/s on Tuesday... We shall see. I'll let you guys know how it goes!

Is anyone else starting to worry about ttc and mickey?

[MrsBritney]

Amber -
I am TOTALLY worried about Mickey and TTCinNC!!
I can't figure out where they are and why we haven't heard from them in a long time! I hope they are just on vacation or something.. and nothing has happened to them!
IF YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE!! WRITE TO US SOON!!
As for the dogs - yea, I know that not everyone in the world agrees with me on the dog thing, but I am with you, I couldn't have my pets outside.. especially in the extreme heat like we have here.. or even in the cold like we used to have in Oregon during the winter.. I just think that is so mean!! Plus, I am just too much of a dog lover.. Our house is small too.. and we definitely dont have room for all of these dogs.. but we are managing because it is only fair for the dogs to have somewhere loving and nice to go home to...
As for the TTC issues.. I have never been on provera and I have never been introduced to clomid..
I have done a bit of research about clomid.. and I should do some research on Provera too.. I dont know if this cycle is a fluke or not. .because I have always had overly long cycles - except my last cycle.. when I got pregnant.. I had ovulated on like day 45 or something crazy like that.. which is probably why I miscarried because the egg was too old to grow properly..
So I will be calling my doctor WEdnesday (because that will be day 35 of my cycle and if I haven't started AF by then, then something is WRONG.. especially since I haven't even ovulated yet!) to set up an appt...
We will see what happens then...
As for the job thing.. I think working at the restaurant doing hostessing and stuff would be a good job for now.. you know what I mean? You may have to stop in your last month or so.. ( at least you can afford it .. I would have to work all of the way till I was in the hospital giving birth!! ) I think any job that you can do.. will be better than no job at all.. just remember to keep refreshed on all of your chemist information so that you are still fresh after the birth of the baby! :) I know God will work it out for you.. he wouldn't have let you have this tiny miracle if HE didn't think you guys would be able to handle it!

Beth

[girliegirl]

Victoria, soo glad everything went so well!! How exciting to see that hb. I bet you feel like you can relax a little now!

Beth, are you sure you aren't pg? when did you take the test? was it maybe too early? if not, then I would call the dr and figure out what to do by day 35.

Parade of homes went really good, we probably had 1000 people through this weekend. hopefully some sales will come out of it. I love our house. it came together so good, now i just need to get moved by the end of the month!

I have been having cramps and o signs since cd11. it is now cd 15. the opk's have been not quite as dark as the control line. sat and sun, cd 13 &14, the line was maybe as dark, maybe a teeny bit lighter, still a liitle crampy but sat was really crampy. I told dh i thought i was about to unload about 10 eggs or something!! so anyways, now today cervix seems to have moved down a little and not quite as soft. so i don't know what to think. did i o or not? we did bd on cd 11, 13 at night and 14 in the a.m. I feel like we should again today, but i dont know if it will happen. whay do you guys think?? whats up with all the cramps and not a strong + opk?? maybe i was analyzing it too much and sat and sun was a +.

[purplerain]

Hi Ladies!

Soooo Sorry for not writing sooner! Its been so crazy! Plus I start getting overly addicted to this board and feel like I should tear myself away!!!

Well I have started doing acupuncture 2x a wk, bumped up my work outs to 4-5 times a wk and now I am working on changing my diet, taking out the sugars, which is way hard!!!!! I started taking my meds for the FET, just 2 pills an day and no shots!!! I have to wait until my next period, which should be the end of this week or beginning of next, then I start my count down. They have my transfer scheduled for July 6th at 12:30, but that could change if I start my period earlier. Plus this month they gave us the go ahead to try naturally while waiting for all of this other stuff. I had a huge + on my opk's so me and my dh barely came up for air for about a 5 day period. Doubt it worked but it never hurts to try!!!

Amber and Lilli-How are you guys feeling? When are your next dr. appt ments? If you have pics, I would love to see them! I may have missed them as I did not go through every post!

Beth-Are you preggo? Keep us updated!

Girlie-Have you O'ed yet? I think its coming up soon!! Get ready to have some fun!

Gwens-I totally can understand the drinking thing. Lately on the weekends its been getting outta control, but I figure for me, since I have a date for the transfer, I can enjoy some fun right now, especially with what we have all been through! I think its always good to cut back, but I don't feel bad about over indulging once in awhile, so you do what you are comfortable with---no judgements!

Hope you are all well!
Mickey

[MrsBritney]

OK ladies - WHAT HAPPENED TO EVERYONE?!?!
I waited all day yesterday for ONE person to post something.. because I Was going to wait for that one person to post before I did.. and then I got busy with meetings all day, and I come back this morning to find that NO ONE POSTED!! What is up with that?
COME BACK EVERYONE!

Purple - It is SO good to hear from you again! You had us all worried!! But taking out sugars and EXERCISING!! YOU didn't have to kill yourself while you were away!! lol Seriously, I have been trying to eat better too. I have been exercising more and trying to take off these last horrible 10 lbs!! They are driving me crazy. I almost dont want to get pregnant until I lose them just because I hear it is harder to lose the weight after pregnancy!
As far as I know I am not pregnant, I have NO pregnancy symptoms, and the test I took last week was a negative. But I still dont have AF yet.. which probably means that my cycle is all jammed up. I am supposed to call my doc today to find out what is going on, but I might wait till Monday just because I wouldn't be able to get in to the doc next week anyhow.. but I might change my mind .. who knows.. I am fickle.

Girlie - Yea, I suppose it could have been too early for the test, however - I have NO signs of ovulation and my temps have been below coverline with exception of TWO days this month.. I just dont think that I am having a normal cycle. I will probably call the doc today or tomorrow because I have no signs of AF either.. I just dont know what to do.. I think it might be better if I DONT get pregnant right now, especially with not knowing if I will have a job or not.. you know what I mean?

As for me, I have been uber tired this week.. but last night I FINALLY got the sleep that had been escaping me for the past 7 days or so.. my dogs are finally sleeping thru the night, even with the bedroom door open, and the big dogs moving around all night.. so that is a positive thing..
WE have blankets laying all over the couches and beds so that if the big dogs DO get up there we wont have black hair all over our stuff.
I feel like I live in a KENNEl.. it SUCKS, I can't wait till I am back to just TWO dogs, and someone PLEASE shoot me or hit me across the face if I EVER talk about getting one more dog.
Anyhow.. I am only a little tired today.. but I am a bit hungry.. I haven't been eating breakfast in the mornings in the last week due to the mass amount of dogs in my house taking up all of my time..
Ugh..

Someone PLEASE tell me they want to take on two really sweet rotties! :)

beth

[girliegirl]

Hi! I posted yesterday! Where is everyone?? Beth, if you are convinced you aren't pg and having a screwy cycle I would call the dr and get the show on the road. My opk's were lighter on mon and tues. so i guess sat or sun was a +. we last bd on sun a.m. so I am not too hopeful. we should have continued on mon or tues with the bd, but no luck there. oh well I am about to go get a tummy tuck and for get the baby thing. I am with you with the dog thing. we have 4 cats! Who needs 4 cats? but we both love cats and they keep coming to us needing a home!! Dogs are way more maintenance though I know so I feel for you! This subdivision project is getting overwehlming for both of us. I feel like i have no time for anything. I will check in this afternoon though!

[MrsBritney]

Hey there! :)
I am just always so nervous to call the Dr. because I dont want her to think that I am crazy.. I am convinced I am not pregnant, but DH isn't.. so he wants me to take one more test before I call the Dr. SO I was thinking about running to the $$ store tonite to pick up a few of them and prove to him that I Am not.. But I think I wont have time to hit the store tonite - it might have to wait till Friday, because I am working all day long today and I need to get home to all of those crazy dogs!
I might just pick up a test on the way home on Friday, take it when I get home, then call the doc when it comes up neg and schedule an appt for next week sometime.
What do you think of that?
And I Am SOOOO With you on the baby thing! I was thinking yesterday, I should just go and get my boob job/lipo and just keep my dogs and be happy.
Instead of stressing about all of this baby stuff. but you know what will happen with us.. ? Right? As soon as we get all of that stuff done, WE WILL GET PREGNANT!! HAHAHH!!!
Sorry about the BDing thing.. that always sucks to know that you wasted a good day on the wrong day! HAHA
Anyhow.. talk to me everyone!
Amber - Victoria - Mickey - TTCinNC - EVERYONE ELSE!!!
WHERE ARE YOU?

[sweetbabydreams]

Hi MrsBritney --

I'm feeling very delinquent now! But just so you know, I tried to post here 3 times, but my posts got so long that I got logged out and the posts got lost. I guess this is the thread to really pour your heart out, and it's hard to do that briefly and concisely. I'm sorry you're having such an odd cycle -- why do our bodies have to be so ornery and unpredictable sometimes??!! For me, it's now been almost 3 weeks since the D&C, and I still don't think I've O-ed -- temps still low, no real cramps or other signs. I feel like I've stalled out! What is going on?! Maybe for some of us it takes longer to really get back to normal? Who knows. I would gladly take a few dogs off your hands, but my cat would kill me. Good luck with them all -- you're a true animal-friend to take that on! Maybe it'll be a good distraction for you. I'm going to end now and hope this one makes it on the thread!

Jennifer

[MrsBritney]

Hey Jennifer (Ok, so now I am here all day!)
So you had your D&C 3 weeks ago. Have they taken your blood to measure the amount of HCG still in your system? BEcause when I had my D&C it took 9 weeks for the HCG levels to go down to zero, and then another week to get AF...
Then I had a perfect cycle.. and now this messed up one.
I dont know what is going on with me.. but I guess I will just have to live thru it and trust that God has a plan for me! :) right?
The animals are all very sweet (except for the beagle! he is SOOOO ANNOYING! I just want to kick him.. but I dont)
My advice to you about the long posts.. if you really want to pour your heart out..
I would write it all in a word document, and when you are done writing.. copy it, then paste it into the thread so that you are not logged in the whole time and it doesn't log you out! :) I do that sometimes!!
Good luck!!
Good to hear from you too!!

Beth

[sweetbabydreams]

Beth - No, they haven't tested my HCG levels -- they just said come back at the beginning of my 2nd period. Which at this rate could be next year! I suppose I could POAS and see what it shows. You know, I agree with GirlieGirl, it does seem like a possibility that you may be pg. I really really hope that's the case! But if not, you're right, God has a plan, and maybe this is just a shakedown cycle, and the next one will be normal and successful. And then again -- boob jobs are cool too. With all the money I've spent trying to get pg, I could have gotten an extreme makeover and be Angelina Jolie by now. (Her baby was born on my b-day!)

[lilliput]

Jennifer - You're back from Alaska! How was the trip? And you share a b-day with fancy-pants Shiloh? Am I even allowed to write her name, or will there be some lawsuit about copyright enfringement headed my way?? :D It might not be a bad idea to POAS, and if it's still pos, I'd consider calling the doc just to let them know.

Beth - yes, I know. Nobody's been around. I've been trying to cut back a little bit. Not sure why, just needed a pause for a few days. Thanks for having those Coronas for me. Way to make me extremely jealous. We've got two dogs and a cat, which is just plenty for now. glad to hear you are working on getting some more sleep, now that the dogs are adjusting. Also, are your sure you aren't making excuses just to not POAS??? I'm just teasing you, but you keep putting it off! :D I understand though - you know your body best.

Girlie - Glad to hear that the parade went well. We had a continuing bathroom saga. When they nailed the new baseboard, they nailed right through one of our water pipes. So now we have to re-sheetrock the ceiling of the bathroom underneath the bathroom we just did because of the torrents of water pouring through the hole in that ceiling! Can you believe it? I think it's my house getting back at me for saying I'm going to put it on the market! In any event, DH is finally almost done painting, just in time for my mom to arrive this weekend. It'd be nice to have her bathroom done....don't you think?

All is well here. We told our families last night, which was weird. I almost wish we had kept it a secret. Now it's all becoming so real, and it kind of freaks me out. The good thing is I can now go shopping with my sister, and she is loads of fun to go shopping with!

Glad to hear you all sound so well! I am going to take a nap before going back to work. Have a great day all!

[MrsBritney]

Purple - Ok ok ok - You got me. I AM looking for any excuse to NOT POAS! Because I just dont believe that I am PG and looking at that solitary line on that stick is just going to make me sad even tho I already know how it is going to come out! you know what I mean? I mean, I do have to get home and take care of the dogs.. however, I probably could take the 5 minute trip to the dollar store if I really wanted to.. right? BUt I dont have sore boobs, I am not peeing any more than usual... I dont have any headaches.. I am just tired, and that is all. :) Or course, I am "late".. however, I dont think that I ever ovulated.. so that would just make this a really long follicular phase. :)
anyhow.. I DID have some corona's for you.. for SURE.. I had about 6, and they were GREAT. But I promise you guys, I will have taken another HPT by Friday, no later! Ok?

Sweet - I would definitely suggest that you POAS - the ones that detect early.. get them from the $$ store because they are cheap, so you dont waste good money..they had me come in once a week to check my beta levels to see if it was going down or not. Can you ask for bloodwork to be done by your doc to find out if your HCG levels are going down or not? And you are right.. ANYTYHING is possible.. I COULD be Pg.. but I dont think so.. however - a boob job and some lipo does seem like a good idea..
But here is my delimna.. am I willing to give up having my own baby just to look a little hotter and younger.. :) Some would say yes.. I am going to have to say no.. but I GUARANTEE that I will be having my boob job/lipo someday.. :) WOO HOO!beth

[sweetbabydreams]

I feel like my friends just don't want to hear anything about what I've gone through. I had dinner with my cousin last night -- she was the one who picked me up after my D&C -- and not once did she ask how I'm doing! She went on and on about her weekend, and her fiance's wierd ex-girlfriend, and I was just sitting there thinking, is she ever going to ask how I am? Does she not want to talk about it? Does she think it's ancient history? (It hasn't even been three weeks!) And another VERY good friend hasn't called once since I initially told her the news. I'm trying to understand that they may just feel uncomfortable, and not know what to say. But I just want to feel like they care!! It makes me feel very alone -- it's still a huge thing in my mind, I'm nowhere near being "over it" -- but I feel like people just want me to act normal.

Okay, that's out. I'll post later with personal messages -- I know it's not all about me! I just had to get that out.

[MrsBritney]

Sweet -
I know what you mean. It is like people just dont want to talk about it.. and the truth is.. for the most part.. I am glad when they dont..
Not because I am "over it".. but because they said some of the most hurtful things to me afterwards. like "It wasn't a baby yet anyways" or.. "At least you know you CAN get pregnant" or "dont worry, you will get pregnant again".. it was so horrible, they were just so disrespectful and I felt like they should have just said nothing at all!
Which is one of the reasons I love it here so much.. Everyone knows JUST what to say.. these ladies keep me SANE.. but now that I am 4 months since the miscarriage.. no one remembers but me and my DH.. even family members dont talk about it anymore.. and it really does hurt my feelings.. but I guess that is just what happens in life.. and I am going to have to deal with it in my own way.. which is .. coming here! :)
By NO means should you be acting "normal" and by NO means should you be "over it" now.. I cried for about 10 weeks off and on over the miscarriage.. I still get sad from time to time now.. but I dont cry anymore..
It is the worst when I find out someone else is pregnant.. or I see a baby.. ;) BUt I am still SO happy for those people.. just a bit sad for what happened..
If you need ANYTHING.. just let us know.. because we have all been there..
*HUGS*

beth

[sweetbabydreams]

Thanks Beth -- it really helps to know you've felt some of the same things! It's true that most people do not say helpful things, but it also hurts to realize that the whole experience has just disappeared for them. As if it never happened! But you know -- I was probably the same way before it happened to me. Thank goodness for this site -- it's the only place where people really do understand. Any updates on your mystery cycle? New symptoms, new signs? I so relate to your attitude about boob job vs. children -- I feel so unsexy right now, and would love to do something about it -- but my only priority is still having a baby. Lipo will just have to wait!

[AmberinGSO]

Sweet- I think thatwas absolutely the hardest part for me. The hurt is so terrible for us when we suffer a m/c and of course it is most personal to us. I don't think other people can fully understand. I was constantly upset with all of my family and girlfriends weeks after my m/c because I felt like they were ignoring my loss by not asking about it, even a couple months afterwards, but I think the truth is they just either feel uncomfortable or they don't want to bring it up to you if you haven't brought it up. Maybe they are afraid of reminding you of it when you aren't thinking of it (like that ever happens right).
Honestly, before I ever had a m/c my older sister had one and I can remember when my mom called and told me she miscarried and I was very sad for her, but I had no idea at that point what a horrible thing it was until I had my own a year later. I remember thinking that I should have been more sensitive to my sister after I had mine because I realized how horrific it was to go through one. I tried to remember that when people didn't say anything about mine when I ran into them in the first few weeks after my loss.
I know when you have a m/c time just stops right there for you. You have lost the most precious thing in your life (that's how I felt anyway) and I felt appalled that people were still doing every day things like getting gas, grocery shopping...breathing.
Time won't erase the feelings, but they will dull them some. I know it seems outrageous to ask you at a time like this to be patient with others, but maybe their silence is to protect you. I was much more grateful to those that didn't say anything than those that said insensitive things like "Oh well it wasn't really a baby anyway."
I hope that didn't get to preachy..kind long winded sorry.
I will pray that your heart heals soon and that soon you are on your way to trying again.

I will write the rest of you wonderful ladies later. I have an errand I have to do before 8!

[Gwensmom]

Hi guys. Sorry not to have posted much lately...this has been the week from hell! I am not one to be able to do a million different things at one time, but this week I feel like that is what I have to do. We are having my family to the house for the weekend, DFS's 7th bday is tomorrow (so all the party planning, package buying/wrapping) and DH's bday is Sunday. Work is crazy too, we are so short staffed right now, and the work is piling up around me. I hate that feeling of leaving at the end of the day and not getting my desk clear (or even close to clear!). So, blah!!!

I haven't really had a chance to see how I am doing...I think I will decompress Sunday after my family leaves and DH is satisfied with a wonderful birthday :) I am sorry not to do personals, I just wanted to pop in and say hello. I will write more later, probably Sunday....

Blessings!

Becky

[girliegirl]

Hi girls!
Jennifer, this is the best place for you to be right now because people will continue to say insensitive things or act like it never happened. I swear, I think people think its like you got your period, its over now, no big deal. So come here to talk to us, everyone here has really helped me through this. thats why we have so many of us here for so long! I have recently had people who know how crazy busy we have been with the subdivision lately say "its a good thing you weren't pregnant now after all". Can you believe that??? Hang in there, you will have a bfp soon. And I know how you guys feel about the whole body thing. I feel like my stomach is the fatest thing ever. I want a tummy tuck so bad. wait til you have kids to do anything to your body, because pg and breastfeeding will change your body.

[girliegirl]

Beth, any update?? I haven't been in the loop much the past few days, still so so busy. something has got to give. my energy level is zero. dh's is too. he took today off to golf all day. i am so so glad he did. be does nothing fun anymore and i think its getting to him. he deals with stress and negativity all day so he needs to get out with the guys have a few beers and fun!! Any sign of af or pg? this must be getting on your nerves by now. let me know!


Hi Everyone else! How all of you? Amber, Victoria, Becky, TTC, Mickey!!

[MrsBritney]

OK, just wrote a HUGELY long post and it got lost..
I can't rewrite it, as I dont have time...
But I wanted to tell all of you hello and give you all hugs.

Sweet - dont worry, we will be here for you, when the rest of the world feels so far away.. just give us a shout!!

Amber - keep us informed!! WE want to know how you are feeling.. and what is up with your bean!!

Gwensmom - You sounds SO busy.. I feel for you! We have been swamped here this week! it is so crazy!! But I hope you are doing ok!! Tell your DFS happy birthday for me!

Girlie - I have no updates at all.. I still am convinced that I am not pregnant.. I took a test a week ago and it was negative.. so I am sure nothing has changed.. my temp went up just a bit today.. but I just thinking that was a fluke because I Was hot when I woke up! I am like CD37 or something like that.. I am running by the $$ store after work today. .and I will let you guys know the FOR sUREness of the test.. ok? But I will be calling my doc first thing MOnday morning to schedule an appt to talk to her about my cycles.. so never fear! I just wanted to give it more time.

Anyhow.. I have lots to talk about.. but I dont have the time, I have things to do.. so I will try and write tomorrow.. or later on tonite before my second job!!

Beth

[TTCinNC]

Can I join in again?? :p

Hi, Ladies. Sorry to have pulled a really bad Houdini - but I needed to get away! I did exactly what Beth said I shouldn't do. Feeling so incredibly down, I just retreated from everything. Not pregnant, but finally coming to grips with the m/c -although I though I had done that (but apparently it just doesn't work that way). Well, I have missed you girls and hopefully you guys won't hold this against me!

Hugs,

Ty

[sweetbabydreams]

Hi TTC - I'm new on this thread, so it may sound silly for me to welcome you back (although I do!) -- but I know everyone will be very happy to hear from you. I'm so sorry for your loss. I had my D&C three weeks ago (at 7 weeks) and it feels like it was yesterday. It keeps surprising me just how difficult it is to deal with. Some days are okay, and I think I'm fine -- then the next day I wake up super-depressed and ready to cry at the drop of a hat. I guess it just takes a lot more time than we think (and wish!) I really hope you start to feel better overall, even if some days are still tough. Be good to yourself. Sometimes I think: but I don't want to feel better, because that means letting go of the pregnancy. And I'm not ready to let it go. Maybe our emotions and our bodies just work at their own pace, and we just have to let them. Anyway, my heart goes out to you as you work through this pain.

Amber -- thanks so much for your post. Everything you said is exactly how I feel. I will try to be more understanding of people -- I'm sure they have good intentions. And before this happened to me, I was just as clueless!

Girlie - I can't believe someone said that to you!! What could they have been thinking?? I'm glad your husband is getting a break. You could probably use one too. You should go get a massage or something while he's playing golf.

MrsBritney - Have you tested yet? Do you temp -- and does that give you any clues about what's going on? I'm starting to get frustrated because according to my temps I still have not ovulated. I wonder if this is an anovulatory cycle -- and if that's good or bad. I just want to get back to normal.

Hope everyone's having a good day -

Jennifer

[MrsBritney]

I only have a few minutes.. just wanted to update all of you.

TTC we MISSED YOU!!
I can't believe you went into hiding..
Just remember.. we can help you with anything you are feeling... as we have ALL Been there before!!
*HUGS* Just let us know!

Sweet - ok.. I do temp, which is pretty much why I believe that I have not ovulated.. my temps have not been above coverline ONE time in the last 35 days. My coverline is 97.7 - you can click on my little Cycle tracker thing below and see my chart.. ok?

ALRIGHT - for EVERYONE..
I took another HPT. it is a BFN JUST as I suspected. So yes, I will be contracting my doctor first thing MONDAY MORNING!!
And we will see what is up.. ok?

HUGS to you all.. I have to go to work!!

beth

[AmberinGSO]

Victoria- Glad to hear you finally told your families! I know that was a big step for you. It really makes it all more real, doesn't it? I hope you're not working too hard.

Jennifer- I hope you've been feeling a little bit better!

Beth- Sorry about the BFN, but it seems like you were kind of expecting that. I think it is a good idea to contact your doctor on monday and find out what is going on. It could still be that this is just a fluke cycle but you may need some help getting AF started again. From looking at your chart I would have to agree you haven't ovulated yet, but they could do a test to prove it. You will get AF going again and go on to a perfectly normal 28 day cycle next time I bet! As for me, I'm feeling...ok. M/S comes and goes. I'm having trouble sleeping at night, but hopefully that will pass soon. I hope all the pups aren't driving you up the wall! Any luck with the job search?

TTC- So so glad you are back! I was just worried something had happened to you! I'm glad you are feeling a bit better. I think sometimes you do have to get away from the boards. I know I have become unhealthily obsessed at different times in my life.

Gwen- Happy birthday to DFS and DH! What a crazy and exciting weekend! Sorry about all the loads of work that sucks, but hopefully things will ease up on you by Sunday night and you can take a long hot bath and relax! Let us know how it goes. Seven is such a fun age!

Girlie- Hope your workload is easing up some! You should take some time to relax and do something you want to do. You've had a stressful month!

As for me-My friend is getting married this weekend and last night she had her rehearsal dinner. It was all very fancy and the wedding is too. I just feel so uncomfortable all dressed up like that! I had to go without DH too because he didn't get off on time and there was a guy there in the wedding party that I did not expect that I had a hot and heavy fling with in early college and he was there with his gf and boy did I feel uncomfortable. I hate seeing people that have seen you naked...gross. Sorry that might've been tmi. Just made me laugh a little later!
In other news my sister told me yesterday that she has to change her babygirl name because Brad and Angelina stole it. Thank God! I hate the name Shiloh! To me it is hideous. My sister is into these really strange sounding names. Now she says if she has a girl she will name it Vada. Poor kid! Anyway, sorry that was really long! Hope you all have a great weekend!

[MrsBritney]

AMber -
yea, I was TOTALLY expecting the BFN.. I didn't even both looking at the HPT for like 20 minutes.. and when I did.. I had forgotten about it.. and only on single solitary line was there.. not even a HINT of another line!! :)
But that is ok!!

Today, I saw that I had EWCM.. which was totally weird..
So.. I dunno.. maybe I am finally goin to ovulate this cycle.. but who knows!
Anyhow.. hope everyone is having a GREAT weekend!!

Beth

[girliegirl]

It is such bullshit when you lose a really good post. what is up with that anyways???


TTc, soo soo glad to have you back. I hope you are doing better. we were all starting to worry about you. Is there anything we can do to help you feel better? My 1st af after mc set me backk for a few days, i was a mess all over again.

Jennifer, how are you doing?

Beth, Let us know when you call the dr. Long cycles suck. i had them when i was ttc #1 15 yrs ago. it makes the waiting worse. i am sure there is something simple to fix that.

Becky, how was the family weekend? and b-day? Its so nice of you guys to do so much for dfs. you are making such an impact on his life, even if it doesn't feel like it some days when he is difficult.
what do you do for work?

[girliegirl]

Amber, your sister has some crazy baby names! whats wrong with emma, or susie, or something normal??!! when is she due? is that fun to be pg with your sister?

Victoria, how are you?? Are you starting to relax about the pg yet? How far along are you now? what about amber?

[girliegirl]

The parade is finally over. so glad. I am exhausted and tired of people and their scurvy kids walking through my house and touching my walls!! someone even peed in one of the toilets and we have no water to flush yet. grrrr. It was very successful we had 500-600 each weekend day and probably 200 on the week nights. it was nice to hear everyone say how the sub was the nicest in the area. it was nice to know people noticed the entrance, landscaping roads looking so good. all of dh's hard work is paying off. we now have 5 more basements to get in the ground asap! of course its never enough or fast enough for dh to relax!!

[girliegirl]

I am now 8 dpo. i feel nothing, so i am sure with the craziness of this month this is not the month. i had more blood work done this a.m. blood sugar, progesterone and some other stuff. OH. also can you believe this, I made an acup apt for last fri. and 2 hr. $160 apt. they called the day before to remind me. I totally forgot and missed it. i am so so pissed at myself for that. i am sure the dr thinks i am a total flake and of course now i have to rescedule and pay the $160 again. my life has got to slow down this is ridiculous.

[AmberinGSO]

Beth- Are you calling the doctor today? Let us know what they say if you do. That's funny that you didn't even look at the test. Everytime I take them I set them right on the bathtub ledge so I can stare at them until they are finished! How are all the doggies?

Girlie- Yay for the successful parade of homes! That is totally gross that someone peed in the toilet! Who would do that?! That is a total bummer about the missed acp. appt. I would be so mad at myself if I did that too! Have you ever done acp before? I want to try it sometime since my insurance covers it. I don't know if I would freak out or not since I'm a little squeamish about needles. That got better though when I had the m/c and had to have my blood drawn 930489 times. That is so exciting that you are in the 2ww. You never know! This could be your month when you least expect it! Being pregnant with my sister is not that exciting unfortunately. She is six years older than me so we aren't very close. I was always the annoying little sister growing up. She does have some really strange baby names. I will be selecting a more traditional and hopefully not too common name. I was so sad because I love the name Jacob and it has been the most popular boys name for the last like 8 years :(. I am 9w1d by the way. My sister is about 8weeks ahead of me and due in November.

Not much to report from me lately. I had that wedding this weekend...that was about all. I've been a pretty big lazy piece of crap! Hope everyone else is doing well!

[TTCinNC]

Good morning, Ladies.

I hope you all had terrific weekends! Mine was insanely hectic. We hosted a faculty canidate for the entire weekend because of dh's responsibility as chair. So weird having some strange man in your house all weekend. Keeping upbeat and smiling was SO hard when I was so dog gone tired and still a little emotionally wobbly. Especially when he asked about the nursery!! But I got through it but would really like a bed for lunch.

I know I missed my window this month. Had plenty of EWCM but was so busy preping for the visit that we only sporadically did the deed. But, for this month that is okay - no pressure.

Girlie - congrats on the spectacular showing!! That is exciting, but I'm sure your glad it's past!

Amber - I hope you and the bean and doing well!! Is your m/s too bad?

Beth - You really should call your doc and set something up - have you O'd this late before?

How is Victoria doing?

Sweet - A belated welcome to the thread! Thank you for such sweet sentiments. I need the brief retreat, but I'm so glad to be back with you girls again!

[Gwensmom]

Ladies

I survived the weekend! :eek: I am ready for another weekend...one when it is all about ME! Never gonna happen....

DFS had a great 7th birthday! He genuinely seemed to enjoy the time we spent celebrating and loves of course his new gifts! The cutest thing is that DH and I bought him a bunch of CD's with kid's sing-along-songs (like "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean"..."Little Red Wagon") as well as some CD's with classic children's stories. (I found the CD's at Michael's Craft store for $1 each!) Anyhow, he LOVES these CD's, and he is SO darling as he dances around singing along to them. I could just die from surpressed laughter!! Wish you all could see/hear him....it would cheer up just about anyone's day!

DH had a nice birthday yesterday. He recently got an older model pickup for a great deal (FREE) from our neighbor in exchange for him helping her in her yard. She is single and ~60...so he is of course able and very willing to help her out as needed in exchange for a GREAT pickup! He is in love with that truck, let me tell you! I am trying not to get jealous :) I love the big goofy grin plastered on his face ALL THE TIME! So good to see him geniunely happy....makes me happy too! It has been awhile since we have had that feeling, silly that it takes a generous gift from a neighbor...a 1987 ford pickup to do that! I'll take it when I can get it!

TTC - So good to have you back. I was missing you and of course getting worried like the other ladies. This grieving process is so up and down.....so unexpected when the waves of sadness come. Hang in there sweetie, your time is coming. Thank you for coming back to us! XOXO

Amber - Good to hear things are going well for you....also good to hear you aren't going to take after your sis in the naming department :) I love Jacob too, but I know what you mean about wanting a name that isn't overly popular. My maiden name is Jordan, so I always thought I would name my first-born Jordan....now it will be the middle name I think. Too common...but I love the name.

Beth - I am sorry this cycle has been so frustrating.......how did the doctor visit go. I hope you had a great visit, and now you have some ammo for what to do next. Blessings.

Girlie - Totally can't believe that someone used your toilet. Ick. PEOPLE!!! I hope you are able to take full advantage of this next ACP appt......you are only 8 dpo...this still could have been your month. Keeping fingers crossed.

Jennifer - So good to see that you are sticking around here.....this thread has been SO good for me...how are you doing? Are friends/family being supportive? My friends seem to not want to talk about our most recent loss...mostly I just talk to my mom a lot and one good girl-friend. I hope you have someone......I love the ladies on this thread!!

Victoria - How are you? Work in your garden lately? When is the peak time for fall beauty over there? I really want to go visit my uncle and aunt in Brandon VT sometime soon...was thinking timing it for the fall would be good to hit the peak in the changing of the leaves.

better get back to work. Happy Monday :rolleyes:

Beck

[Manda]

Hi to everyone. Sorry I haven't been on in a while. Haven't really been doign to great. I have bad days and then I'll have a good one. I have a good friend at work that told me last Friday that she is expecting. She is 10 weeks already and is just now telling people. She said she didn't want to say anything to me cause of my bad time, which is really sweet, but I'm still soooo hurting. Sat. night I had a break down. I don't know if I have ever cried so hard. I told my DH if one more person besides me get preggo I'm gonna go over the edge. :(
I know I shouldn't be like that but I just can't help it. Every time I find out someone else besides me is preggo I get so jealous. I know we all do on here. I told a good friend of mine I think I have post-pardum depression. Anywho, I'm done complaining now.
I think I got AF maybe?? Last week I had a little cramping and some brown stuff(sorry if TMI) only when I wiped, so who knows what the deal was with that. I guess if I feel myself ovulating in another week I'll know it was AF.
Talk later.

[lilliput]

hey guys!

Yes, I have been MIA again. Just not posting a whole lot in general, I guess. I'll try to do personals for everyone, but gosh, so much is going on!

TTC- Welcome back! It's really good to have you back. I'm sorry you've been having a tough time lately. It's like that, up and down and up and down, and sometimes the littlest things can be so frustrating and upsetting. Hopefully summer will provide lots of opportunities for fun activities, and will help bring joy back into your life. We're here when you need us too, one day at a time.

Beth - How was the doctor's appointment? Need update soon!

Becky - glad you had such a great weekend, and that DFS really loved his CDs. That is so cute! DHs are funny about what makes them grin from ear to ear. sometimes I feel the same way, you think you've figured something out that will make them totally psyched, and then they throw you for a loop! So sweet though, about your neighbor and the truck. Haven't been in the garden much in the last few weeks, mainly because it has pretty much been raining nonstop for the last two weeks. It's been awful! Finally stopped raining yesterday, but it's supposed to start again tomorrow. Ugh. My mom is here for a visit, and she is doing some weeding today. Great having a mom that loves to do some work every now and then! As for foliage, obviously it varies from year to year. Towards the center of the state, I'd say last week of September is probably a good bet, or the first week of October. Kind of depends on what the weather does this summer. We sometimes peak as early as mid-September up here, but usually closer to the end of the month. We have some color in the trees by Labor Day though.

Amanda - sorry you've been having a tough time as well! How long has it been since your D&C? I m/c'ed naturally, so I'm not sure about what AF looks like post-D&C. Some of the other ladies on here could help you with that though. Hope you feel better, and that DH is providing you with some good support.

Girlie - Yay on the end of the parade of homes! Very exciting, and a big congrats to you and your DH on pulling off such a successful event! It sounds like the job is never done though. So it goes when you are in business for yourself! Bummer about the acp appointment. I bet you'll make the next one!

As for me, I am 8w5d today. So far all is well. No major sickness, no puking or anything. Every now and then I feel like it if I'm around really stinky cheese, but it passes if I get out to fresh air. I do get dog tired though in the afternoon. So it goes! My mom has been hassling about weight gain already - just like your MIL, Amber!! Gosh, it must be that generation! She said I should only gain 15 lbs! What???? Sounds impossible to me. she's all worried about a too big baby.

Hope you all have a great day! I'm off to NJ on Thursday for my niece's graduation from HS. Should be fun, since I never see them! Hugs all around!

[MrsBritney]

Hi everyone.
Sorry I was MIA for the last few days.
I had a HUGE blowout with DH because he stayed out all night again with his friend and got all drunk and came home at 2 in the morning and I had to get up at 4 for work.. and I was up all night worrying because he didn't have his cell phone.. so I was a bit depressed and we definitely had it out over the situation..
But everything is better now.. So.. dont worry about us.. I think we have reached an understanding over everything.. I made him cry.. not just cry.. but he was sobbing.. I felt so bad.. like maybe I overreacted.. but I know that I didn't.. So.. anyhow.. That is what was up with me..
So I was too depressed yesterday to call the doctor or anything.. and I wont be able to get in this week due to my hectic work schedule, so I am going to call Friday to see if I can get in monday after noon. :)
Anyhow.. how is everyone else doing?

Amber - yea, I am not a POAS fanatic.. I dont like to watch.. because it just causes too much stress.. I just like to go about the house and do my thing.. I actually took a shower while that one was workin thru.. :) I just would rather give it its time and let it do its thing.. and then look when it is time. The doggies are all doing well... there is SO much hair all over my house it is driving me CRAZY.. I can't handle it! But they are all really good dogs.. and they all love to have the hugs and kisses.. so it is worth having them there..
Gregs mom came over yesterday to visit with her rottweilers... and they were so happy to see her.. they wanted to go home with her so badly.. too bad.. they are stuck at our house! :) HAHA

TTC - yes, I have O'd this late before.. I was on Seasonale for a year and a half.. and I went off of it in June last year.. I only O'd 3 times between June and December 5th.. (that is when I got pregnant) so .. it took about 2 months each time for my cycle.. crazy.. isn't it? But I will call the doctor either at the end of this week, or at the end of this cycle.. I just dont want to rush into anyting.. especially with not knowing about my job and all.. I dont want to push the envelope.. and I kinda want to give God a chance to work His magic..

Gwensmom - I haven't been to the doc yet.. but I will soon.. I know it seems liek I am putting it off.. and I am.. :) hee hee.. but I will do it.. I promise.. I just want a chance to do things naturally.. hopefully that will work for me.. if not.. well then.. I will figure out where to go from there!

Roberts05 - Hey there - I am sorry you are feeling so down.. I have been there.. and I know how it is.. and I know that you need support right now..
I wish there was something more than just words that I could do for you.. but this is what I have.. so I will work with it!
As for AF - having some mild cramping and no red blood should not be counted as AF. After my D&C I waited 10 weeks before AF showed. .and she didn't show until I had had about 7 days of spotting.. I had mild cramping and brown/pink spotting.. and then I had AF for 5 days.. kept spotting on and off for another week...and then I passed two REALLY HUGE clots! Apparently there was some remaining tissue from the miscarriage that had not yet passed, so it took at while for my HCG to come down.. and it took a while for my body to naturally pass them..
Anyhow.. I am sorry about that.. I would wait it out another week or so and see what happens..
As for trying to be happy again..
I remember the feeling when I found out that two of my close friends were pregnant right after my miscarriage.. I was so happy for them.. but I had a really hard time proving that to myself.. I was insanely jealous that they had gotten pregnant, when I had just lost my little one.. you know? I thought that it was TOTALLY unfair.. and sometimes I still feel that way.. but I have managed to overcome those jealous feelings.. and I have taken one of them maternity shopping. .and bought some things for her and the baby..
AT least she knows that the baby will be loved.. and know that God will give me a baby when the time is right for me.. but.. just so you know.. I STILL get jealous when I find out that people are pregnant and not me..
But then.. when I am sitting at home, or at the bar, drinking a corona.. I smile.. because I know that they aren't. and THAT, my friend, is how *I* get thru the day.
HUGS to you.. and let us know if you need anything!

Beth

[sweetbabydreams]

Amanda - I SO know how you feel. A good friend of mine just mentioned casually that she and her DH are going to try for a baby, and my first thought was, if she gets pg before me, I'll die. And my next thought was, what a horrible person I am!! She's a really really good friend, and of course I want her to be happy and successful. But you can't help having these feelings -- I'm sure it's totally normal. I'm so sorry you've been feeling down. It was probably good to have a "breakdown" with DH and get some of those feelings out. This is such a hard thing to go through.

Beth - I've heard that Seasonale can totally disrupt your cycles for a while, so maybe that's what's going on with you. How frustrating! I'm sure the doctor can help you out if nothing changes soon. But hopefully it will.

Gwensmom - It's great that you're able to talk to your mother -- mine never wants to hear about problems, it upsets her too much. So I talk to my friends (those who want to!) Your dfs sounds absolutely adorable.

Girlie -- Sorry about your missed ACP appt. I LIVE for my ACP appts., I feel like it's the only thing that's helping me for that next cycle, sometime in the faraway future!, when I'll be able to try again.

Lilliput, Amber - I hope you're hanging in there with the m/s and growing bellies. The end of the 1st trimester is in sight!

TTC - Congrats on your DH's promotion! How are you feeling these days?

As for me, I think I'm having an anovulatory cycle. My temps go up and down, but never more than :04 points, and never over 98. Does anyone know if it's unusual to have an anovulatory cycle after m/c? This Friday will be one month since the m/c, it will be interesting to see what happens.

Best to everyone!

Jennifer

[Gwensmom]

Ladies

So...AF is here today. I was expecting her, but still I am so upset by all of this! I know I should feel good that my body is trying to get back on a normal cycle......but I shouldn't be having a cycle, I should be pregnant! :( So, I have been having a hard time with it, the reminder of what I don't have yet again. I am drinking a glass of wine tonight (okay, probably will have 2)...but that is okay!!! DH actually wants me drinking tonight...my mood must really be BAD! :)

I am not in a place to do personals, just know that I am thinking of you guys and very thankful to you all for giving me a place to come on crappy days like these.

Becky

[girliegirl]

Becky, so sorry you are having a hard time. my first af after m/c, I was a mess. it was like going through the m/c all over again. It surprised me i thought i would be glad to have it and move on, instead I was a wreck. not too much i can say to make you feel better except its probably part hormonal and i am sure in a day or 2 you will feel better and stronger and ready to move forward. we are here for you we understand how awful this is to go through. sounds like dh is always supportive, that helps. take it easy becky, let us know how you are doing today.

[girliegirl]

victoria, good to hear from you, sounds like the pg is going smoothly and you are feeling good! so glad! 1st trimester will be over soon! as far as weight gain, i wouldn't worry about it too much, try to eat healthy and you will be fine. I started at a little over 100 lbs with my first and was 146 when I delivered her! i was able to look remotely normal within a few months after. I haven't seen 100 lbs since though!! thats o.k. though, that may have been a little too thin.

Amber, whats going on? did you guys get another car? are you still thinking about a job? I say rest for the whole pg and then beyond!!

[girliegirl]

TTC, sounds like you guys have had alot going on in your life too! maybe things will settle down next month and you can get some more bd in. but the month isn't over yet! I am 10 dpo today still feel nothing. Congratulate dh for me!

Amanda, we all understand how you feel and feel the same way you do. its very normal. just know this is the place to vent those feelings. we are here to help you! This has helped me a ton. i don't even talk to anyone else about the m/c anymore. whats the point? they don't get it anyways.

[girliegirl]

Jennifer, our best friends just married each other and thry are also trying and i had the same thought, if she gets pg first I will die! I would of course be happy for her. she and i are now on identical cycles, so it would be fun to get pg together.

Beth, sorry about the blowout with dh. if you made him cry, obviously it was a serious issue that needed to be dealt with. I probably would have been super pissed too. sounds like things are fine now, which is good. The kids are off school now, so i am now entertainment director and taxi driver oh and maid and cook too! i try to be patient with them and have fun. when fall comes i want to feel like we spent good time together and had fun.

thurs night we have another event at the sub! does it ever end??? its an after hrs business thing through the chamber of commerce and we have them come tour the sub and its catered etc... should be fun, but one more thing to plan! one of these days i need to sell some real estate so we can eat!

10 dpo and no sign of anything. should be seeing af in 4 or 5 days. can't wait. I am starting to lose interest in this whold process. dh better step up to the plate with some major bding next month or we are going to reevaluate this whole thing. meaning i will be off for my tummy tuck and he can go buy a new kitten.

[MrsBritney]

OMG! That is so crazy you guys..
DH and my best friends from our hometown married eachother last summer.. and now THEY ARe trying and I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING!!! That if they get pregnant before we do again, I will jusT DIE...
I have tried really hard to push those feeligns away.. but I still feel that way!anyhow.. if you all check out my temps.. it definitely looks like I ovulated.. and I was pretty sure I was ovulating anyways.. so after I kept temping I believe I am right.. and so does FF!! :) Got my crosshairs.
However, I am still going to call my doctor ON MONDAY and talk to her about how long this cycle has been.. and see what she has to say..

As for me and DH, yea, the blowout was pretty big.. however, things have been rather pleasant since.. and they were awesome before.. we are getting used to the new "rules" of the house.. ok, they are not "rules" but guidelines.. and he has been very good at helping around the house.. so hopefully this keeps up! you know ?

Lets see...

I dont have a lot of time for personals but I will try my hand at a few...
Girlie - 10 or 11dpo now.. eh? Have you thought about taking a test? Or is there no way to be pg this time? I have been looking in the mirror just thinking how much I would love a tummy tuck lately! :) HAH.

Gwensmom - I am sorry that AF is there.. but I am glad that at least you are cycling!! And at least you aren't waiting 45 days for O.. like me.. it is really depressing.. But I know how it feels when AF shows and you dont really want here there.. but drinking does take the edge off.. that is for sure!! I have been drinking everyweek... since the miscarriage.. and I think that this weekend I am not going to.. because I Think it is time that I step away from that chain of destruction..
however, I do have fun!!

AMBER - Lilli!!
Where are our pgs!! How are you guys feeling? FEeling any movements or anything yet?
And AMBER where are the WEDDING PICS?!

Sweet- Hey - I thoguht I was having an anovulatory cycle.. but it turns out I am just ovulating late.. which is just as bad to me..
I would just keep temping.. and do you have a fertility friend chart? If so... can I look at it? Click on my little ticker thing at the bottom of this post and check out my temps for this cycle.. you will see that I had the same problem.. and that now I am finally in the end stages of this cycle! YAY!!
I should have AF by the end of next week.. SAturday or Sunday..
But dont stress about it - your body is getting use to what happened to it.. have you had long cycles before? Or were you regular?

Roberts05 - How are things going in your area?

TTC?? Any updates?

Ok.. so I have a lot to get done today..
hope to see you all around here later on!!

beth

[girliegirl]

Is there anyone around who would like to obsess with me? today I am 10 or 11 dpo, i think. I don't feel one ounce pg. really tired yesterday, but thats not unheard of. really hungry 2 mornings in a row, but again, not unheard of either, so this am took a clear blue early test and got an extremely faint line. I mean really faint. obsessed on pee on a stick.com and decided it could be a faint + or an evap line although it was there after about 8,9 min. so I waited 3 hrs to pee, did a $ tree test and again very very faint +. so there you have it. i just kind of feel like hmm. interesting. no sore boobs, no cramps, nothing. so I guess i will do another in the a.m. and see what it says. I don't feel like I am so maybe there is just those lines where there would be a line if there was a line?? However when i did a $ tree test when my beta was back to 3, I remember there was nothing there at all. i think. who knows.

anyone want to put their 2 cents in? I am not emotionally wrapped up in this right now, so you won't hurt my feeling either way. I had convinced myself over the past week that I am 8 mos away from the big 4-0 and it was time to hang it up.

[girliegirl]

beth, definitely looks like you are O! what are youdoing about that?? ready for round 2 of bding for the month?? Have you tried preseed? I used that once this month and liked it. dh thought i was very excited and I didn't tell him any different!!

[sweetbabydreams]

Oh my gosh, GirlieGirl! I say a line is a line. Symptoms are so darn unreliable, but a line is a line! I'm so excited for you. Forget that whole 40 thing -- all your numbers are good, plus you were pregnant just recently. I can't wait until you test again tomorrow!! Can you take a picture of the stick so we can analyze it??

Mrs. Britney -- Sorry I'm so clueless about the tickers. I just chart at home, I haven't taken it online yet. But maybe I will start. Yours is very clear, you have def. ovulated. What a relief to have something happen one way or the other! My periods have always been regular to within a couple days, so this limbo feeling is very disturbing to me. The last two days my temp has been slightly higher, so maybe I have ovulated, but without any symptoms at all. I would much prefer my AF to come since this is a wasted month anyway.

Gwensmom, so sorry about the blue feelings with AF. It is such a painful reminder. On the other hand, you're that much closer to trying again. Hang in there. I have to believe there's light at the end of this tunnel.

How is everyone else doing?

Jennifer

[Gwensmom]

I think you are pregnant!!! I would call your doc right away and get a beta to make sure, but you shouldn't have an evap line show up so soon!!! :) I would do a clear blue digital in the AM cause it will say PREGNANT. Are you in shock, disbelief? Praying for you!! Congrats :) Keep us posted!! I am living vicariously through you! :D

[MrsBritney]

Girlie - I agree with Sweet, a LINE IS A LINE.. however, tomorrow morning.. first thing.. you MUST take another one.. then TAKE A PICTURe and load it up to this place so that we can all analyze!! I WANT TO SEE IT!'
that would be so awesome if you were pg!! no tummy tuck for you! :) HAHA
As for me.. We did BD while I was o'ing.. but I just didn't realize I was o'ing, except for the EWCM and the WCM that I Was experiencing.. but then my temps rose right after that.. so I did! Which is totally awesome.. so, in two weeks, I will be getting AF, and then starting a fresh new cycle.. so maybe that will be the jolt that I need!

Sweet - Go to fertilityfriend.com (FF) and start a ticker - you first just take your temps and you record what temp you got, what time you took it at.. and then if you BD'd and you also record what kind of CM you are having...
Then you can share your tracker with the rest of us.. while you are logged into FF you go to the left hand side where it says "tickers" or whatever, and it will take you thru creating a ticker!
So do that for us.. and we can help you overanalyze! :)
I am SO happy that I o'd.. seriously. So by next Saturday I should be getting AF.. because I dont think I am pg this time.. but we will see next weekend.. which is nice..

I still want to call my dr on monday and talk to her about this long long cycle I had.. and see if there is anythign that she has to say about it! :)

So.. how is everyone today?
GIRLIE - I CANT WAIT TILL TOMORROW !!!! POST THAT PIC!!
Do you still have the tests you took earlier today..? If so.. can you capture those in a pic.. and put it on here?

beth

[Gwensmom]

Beth - Congrats on the O! I am so sorry this has been such a LONG drawn out cycle for you. Finally...it will come to an end soon. I would definietly still go to your doctor...she/he can help to regulate your cycles! Good to hear things with DH are a-okay again. My DH goes away next Tuesday for a week...I am actually looking forward to it....as it is always exciting when they return :) I just hope DFS is on good behavior, as I rely on DH A LOT with him!

Sweet - There really HAS to be a light at the end of the tunnel......not another train!!! Lights better be coming for ALL OF US!! Hopefully Girlie's good news is contagious!!!!

Blessings!!!!!

[girliegirl]

I dont know how to post pics!! i am looking at them right now though and there is definitely a line, just real light. real light. i called the re yesterday to ask a few ? and they are supposed to call me back today so i will mention it to her and see what she thinks. i just feel like this is kind of interesting, not like oh yeah i am pg. i seriously don't even have the slightest of any symptoms. not one. so we will see. when i wass 10 dpo the last time i had a stronger + than these whimpy +'s!

Jennifer, I agree that the 1st cycle after m/c is kind of a waste so on to the next! I kind of felt like i may have o'd 2 wks after m/c, but we bd and nothing happened and then 2wks later the perios from hell. be prepared for that if it happens to you the 1st time. Hopefully you will get af in the next 2 wks and you can get ready for the next cycle! if I am pg obviously your body is extra fertile right after m/c. so that should give you some hope!

Beth, I hope you are pg, then you would only be a week behind me and we could whine about wanting our tummy tuck!!

[MrsBritney]

ARGH!! Girlie you are making us CRAZY!!
You have to learn how to post pics!! :) hah...
If you say there is a line, then there is a LINE!! I am so excited for you..
How cool would that be?!
I dont have anything invested in this cycle either.. especially since I o'd so late, I am sure that the lining is too old ,or the egg is too old .. or something.. but I will be talking to my doctor next week sometime.. so that will be something interesting.
It would be totally cool if we were pregnant at the same time.. but even if I get pregnant next cycle, we wouldn't be very far apart.. and we could deifnitely complain about a tummy tuck and lipo!! I also want a boob job.. HEY.. mine are small! Ok?
Gwensmom - I also enjoy when DH is out of town... I am always scared the first night. i HATE being alone at the house, even with all of the dogs.. but after that, I enjoy my time alone.. and then I am excited to see him again!!
Things with him and I are really good.. So I am happy..
On monday, when we had the blowout, I thought things were horrible.. and I didn't know if we would last.. but I think that a lot of what was said was in the heat of the moment.. and I take back a lot of what I said.. I love him and It would take a LOT for me to leave him..I just think we needed some space.. it is always good to get some space from eachother!

Anyhow.. I am excited that soon this cycle will be over.. that will be wonderful to start fresh again.. and girlie.. you PG woman.. I am SO happy for you!!

Almost time for another thread.. eh?

[AmberinGSO]

Hi girls!
TTC- How nice of you to host a visitor even though you weren’t feeling really up to it. Sorry you might have missed your window this month! I hope you are starting to feel a little bit better. I will keep praying for you. It sure is a beautiful NC day today!

Becky- So glad your family had a good birthday weekend. That is so funny about DFS. I love it when little kids dance and sing. It always makes me laugh. I really like the name Jordan too. That it is neat that it is your maiden name. I need to think of something unique and meaningful. I really think I won’t decide on a name until I know the sex. That is really nice of your neighbor to give DH that truck. I know my DH would be tickled to death too. We are STILL looking for a new car. We got approved for a loan at the bank. Now we are just searching for a good deal. Sorry about AF being such a bummer. I know how you feel. I hated that hags appearance every month. Have a glass of wine. It will relax you. I hope you start to feel better.

Amanda- I really had so many days like that after my m/c. My sister announced her pregnancy a couple of months after my loss and when my mom called to tell me I was like “oh great. Good for her” very sarcastically and we really got into it. I just couldn’t feel happy for anyone that was pregnant. Only bitter. I think that is really normal. Not sure if that was your AF or not. It could be AF getting ready to start. My first AF came about six weeks post D&C and was mildly heavy. I will pray for you and hope your bfp comes quickly. I know that is really the only way to heal this loss. It was for me anyway.

Victoria- What is it with these women hassling us about weight gain! Geez. My mother and law said 20 lbs and then went on to tell me she gained 60 with my DH. I’m just going to ignore everyone and mind my own baby and body. If one more person tells me what a change this is going to be for me and how I will never get any sleep and won’t be able to go out as much anymore I am just going to scream. I’m having a baby people. I have given this just a little bit of thought. I can’t believe your mother says 15lbs. That just seems physically impossible. Sorry if that sounded really bitchy. I didn’t mean for it to. It’s just when you are 22 and pregnant it seems like people REALLY lay into you. When I was at the doctor a couple of weeks ago the nurse asked my age and I told her and she said “Just a baby having a baby” and I gave her the look of death. I realize I am young, but I am also college educated and so is my husband and we have a wonderful home and a decent income and a loving marriage…so…oh man sorry I’m rambling. I hope you’re doing good. Sorry I should’ve shut up 20 lines ago.

Jennifer- I read somewhere that most women have one or two anovulatory cycles a year. Sorry for forgetting, have you gotten AF yet since your loss? It could just be your body trying to get things straight again. It takes a while. I didn’t get AF for six weeks after my loss.

Girlie- I am so excited for you. I really think a line is a line and on two tests? How can you deny that?! Is there anyway you can get a beta today? You have a far away doctor right? Oh POAS first thing tomorrow morning and then come right to this board and tell us the good news! This is exciting! Do you have a digital camera? If you do you just load the picture up on your computer and then you can go to a place like www.tinypic.com and upload the picture from your computer and you use the link they give you and post it in a coment! I am really excited right now! Can’t wait for you to POAS again! When will you be due??

Beth- Yay for ovulation! I really think you just had a strange cycle and you will be right back on track next cycle if you don’t get a BFP. That is exciting! How are the dogs? My dog ran away from me yesterday and came back completely covered head to toe in thick red clay mud. Then he jerked loose when I brought him in the house and tracked mud all through the house. Good thing we have hard woods and I could just mop.

Nothing new from me. Just sitting around a lot. I am pretty sure I have secured a job with a pharmaceutical company and am now just waiting for a call back for a final interview. So, that is exciting. I need to do something before I go crazy. My sister found out yesterday she is having a boy again and she is naming it Aidan Finn Orien. She is going to call it Finn. No one in my family likes the name Finn, but we expected her to pick something weird. Anyway…Hope you’re all doing well!

[sweetbabydreams]

So is it wierd that I'm jealous of my friends possibly getting pg, but I'm totally happy and excited for GirlieGirl?? Maybe it's because we've all gone through this suffering. We've earned our PG's, dammit!

[AmberinGSO]

Girlie-Ok I'm really going to burst waiting for tomorrow for you to poas again. Will you be a March mommy or a February mommy? I'm so excited!

Sweet- I was like that with the women on this board too. It just seems like they all deserve it more because they have felt loss. I was always annoyed by the women who just fell pregnant and had an easy nine months. Not that I wish them any harm. Just I was sad and frustrated with my situation.

Beth- Glad you and dh made ammends. Sometimes men just really lose their heads. I absolutely despise it when DH does not take his cell phone with him. I am the biggest worrier ever which is increased by the fact that my DH is in law enforcement. I'm glad you guys got to talk and get things off your chest though. I think it helps to really let it out and clear the air sometimes.

[sweetbabydreams]

Girlie, is this your first "normal" cycle after the m/c? You said you had one AF that was really bad -- are you now in that next cycle? How long after the m/c did your AF come? Sorry for all the questions, this is just so exciting!